Windows Legacy Server - windows-vista

docR pinned a message to this channel. 31/12/2021 15:45

looks based based

12:58

but 6002

12:58

hope you're not running that on haswell or newer trol

it's a VM

12:59

with a nice theme

12:59

and no extended kernel... oops.

oh ok

12:59

I don't see vmware tools

nice theme too

Ximonite

I don't see vmware tools

hid the icon

ImSwordQueen

nice theme too

yep

13:00

it's the one that you would use only on Vista

13:00

or smth like that

13:00

It looks really good

the one that doesn't change vista a lot

ye

I wonder how my start button on my main 8.1 install would look on it

13:00

here:

oh that's the other color

yeah

13:01

there is a white variant

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13:04

installed the white variant and it's not showing up

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oh no haswell

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aaaaaa.

6002 on haswell oh no /s

gonna try out Shorthorn

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just to see what it's about

it's nothing

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literally useless

@Vruh 2

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she doesn't know how to code

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so how much do you bet that the revive would never work

certified hood

I tried putting in one XP key and two 5219 keys

not worth your time

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literally

hmm

13:14

yeah

honestly

13:17

it would be better

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porting stuff to vista instead to xp

not entirely

how so

it was porting shit back to s2k3 which would be more authentic

yes but that would require a lot of work to do

Shorthorn 5219 is honestly ain't bad...

and decompiling code that might be ofuscated

Trying the reverse port of 2000 bootscreen. Perhaps I need more than stubs of the existing functions:

glhf

win32

Trying the reverse port of 2000 bootscreen. Perhaps I need more than stubs of the existing functions:

Oooh

Inexperience Patcher for Vista?

23:36

Win2k_6.1?

23:36

Windows 6000?

23:37

There's a wallpaper pack in 2k style for each NT version, I'll dig them up lol

docR

Inexperience Patcher for Vista?

Unluckly without shell32 being moddable

docR

Inexperience Patcher for Vista?

who would ever want to replace the nice looking aero with boring grey ui and 256 color icons

23:46

lame

@win32 7 boot screen for 8.1 when (edited)

skip

who would ever want to replace the nice looking aero with boring grey ui and 256 color icons

Boring folks

the Door guy

@win32 7 boot screen for 8.1 when (edited)

i don't know anything about bgrt

12:55

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=44&p=64

Windows Vista with Extended Kernel (Current Version is v26102021)

Wait, what is this? Well, let's just say, it's exactly what it sounds like, so basically this is a Windows Vista x64 iso with the Extended Kernel by win32 prein

12:55

Is v6 still the latest version of the extended kernel with an ISO? (edited)

waiting for x86 extended kernel like

12:56

#RadMorning

Is v6 still the latest version of the extended kernel with an ISO? (edited)

no

12:59

v26102021 is

13:03

I didn't notice this part

16:38

it is taking unusually long to get away from this screen

16:39

OK, it went away

it's the same as v6

based

that's fucking smexy

@#RadMorning can you tell me how you changed the start button? I want to change mine

That was changed in the theme by the theme author

17:13

https://www.deviantart.com/hiromoshi/art/LHB-Beta-1-3-74899849

LHB Beta 1.3 by hiromoshi on DeviantArt

17:13

theme in question

oooohhhh the system info bar looks so good

oh ok

also the system tray is super nostalgic

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that utorrent icon

#RadMorning

https://www.deviantart.com/hiromoshi/art/LHB-Beta-1-3-74899849

6001. the build of my childhood

betajyst here

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pog

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same old thing - extracting

I want 5112 button in your theme plz thank

Sure

#RadMorning

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cope

78 is oooold

17:17

also does drm work

skip

78 is oooold

not really, the last release was in November 2021

skip

also does drm work

with what website can I test DRM?

spotify web client

17:17

it uses widevine

I don't have a Spotify acc

you dont have to log in

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if it doesnt support itll say browser not supported

pretty sure widevine is chromium only on vista

#RadMorning

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open.spotify.com

17:19

spotify broken for me

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tried on firefox 91

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can view songs but can't play

Use google chrome

Can you use Chrome on this version of the kernel?

yes

try installing youtbe redux

5252v21ximospecial.zip

1.03 MB

and changing settings in redux

#RadMorning

Can you use Chrome on this version of the kernel?

Yes, why?

just asking

widevine

...how do I get Chrome without the web installer?

global settings

17:22

in osver

@#RadMorning can you try installing youtube redux on 78 and then changing settings in the extension, then going to youtube.com if they take effect

17:23

bc they dont for me

the Door guy

@#RadMorning can you try installing youtube redux on 78 and then changing settings in the extension, then going to youtube.com if they take effect

I'll do that a little later

#RadMorning

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i guess it works

17:24

however it can still skip through songs if drm doesn't work properly

#RadMorning

...how do I get Chrome without the web installer?

https://www.filepuma.com/download/google_chrome_64bit_-932/versions/

Google Chrome (64bit) Latest Version Downloads - Filepuma.com

Fast downloads of the latest free software!

like you try to play one and it'll go straight to the next one

Use chrome, it's the only solution for now

what about Chromium

we have to wait for the 32 bit program support for firefox to work 100%

#RadMorning

what about Chromium

same shit

based and poggers

i dont get it

17:25

Well...

you need to mod osver.ini

where is that file?

C:\Windows

windows folder

btw brave works on vista

do I type in 7601 instead of 6003?

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or change 0 to 1

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or do both

add the firefox.exe location in the []

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and keep global like that

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unless if you have to install chrome

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[Firefox Location] Enabled=1 FirefoxFix=1

Make it look like this

Already got it

17:29

17:31

Does Office 2013 work in Vista?

#RadMorning

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me when you when the

#RadMorning

Does Office 2013 work in Vista?

nope

skip

me when you when the

me when I

#RadMorning

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nice font

It's the best font

ImSwordQueen

nope

Based

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

nice font

docR

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stupid krusty monday resturant

09:22

if krabs just didnt get that money

ImSwordQueen

you need to mod osver.ini

@skip

10:10

this is what you have to do

ok

This seemingly activates vista on EFI https://github.com/ExeCsrss/EzWindSLIC

GitHub - ExeCsrss/EzWindSLIC: An activator for Windows 7/Vista(SP1+...

An activator for Windows 7/Vista(SP1+)/Server 2008-2022 for UEFI-GPT systems, based on WindSLIC but this one is more user friendly. - GitHub - ExeCsrss/EzWindSLIC: An activator for Windows 7/Vista(...

docR pinned a message to this channel. 06/01/2022 06:39

hmm yes, server 2022 can still be activated by a loader

ery noice

11:11

now i can activate ultimate on uefi

arson

ie6vista-alpha.msi

7.01 MB

why does this exist???

exactly

xp explorer

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when

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that's the 2k explorer but eh

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not my screenshots

i know but

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with the xp browseui

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check #vista-7 in BW

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that's about the closest you'll get to xp browseui without too much work

Deleted User

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I actually like how that looks

09:35

I would only replace the XP icons with Vista icons (edited)

09:35

and change the 'Microsoft Internet Explorer' part of the title

16:09

it's also the only version available

Not a lot of Vista-related discussions going on in here...

23:55

Can Google Chrome run on the latest version of the exkernel?

only x64 builds

00:00

I downloaded the 32-bit version by accident

00:00

getting the 64-bit version now

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Annnd you can

does anyone think a HP pavilion dv7 is a good laptop for running windows vista

04:45

or does anyone have other recomondations?

Dean's Tech Corner🌙

does anyone think a HP pavilion dv7 is a good laptop for running windows vista

specs?

Deleted User

specs?

https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c03129247

HP Pavilion dv7-6c43cl Notebook PC Product Specifications | HP® Cus...

@Dean's Tech Corner🌙 should run vista fine

Who made the osver.ini fix for Firefox?

probably win32 himself

Yes, it is a version setting that specifically targets Firefox's removal of the legacy font renderer.

alrighty

I have considered extending the functionality of osver.ini (which will not be renamed to avoid confusion) to cover other functions, including the ones that grab date/time, IsDebuggerPresent() etc.

Another question: Can you install Server 2008 R2 updates on Vista?

2008 R2 is Windows 7.

I know

21:04

but since someone tried to make me believe you can

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I thought I'd assure myself

It would not be possible, as they check for NT 6.1.

Yeah

21:04

that's what I thought

Deleted User

@Dean's Tech Corner🌙 should run vista fine

Okie thanks!

win32

I have considered extending the functionality of osver.ini (which will not be renamed to avoid confusion) to cover other functions, including the ones that grab date/time, IsDebuggerPresent() etc.

Wow

04:46

That would be handy

#RadMorning

Who made the osver.ini fix for Firefox?

uhhh it is not only for firefox

I could've guessed

Does Vista x86 have the same issues as Vista x64 when it comes to Haswell+ CPUs?

19:25

Like: does corruption and drift also occur on the x86 version?

Seemingly not

19:36

And there is no corruption after 6003, just the drift shit

but x64 also doesn't have corruption issues on 6003? (edited)

#RadMorning

but x64 also doesn't have corruption issues on 6003? (edited)

No, Microsoft made a lot of changes in the HAL in 6003 to remedy that issue

It's actually not that bad with 6003

21:58

But winlogon has a tendency to crash with display drivers installed, and that's a huge no no

21:58

But no, it absolutely will not corrupt itself

21:58

It has a sort of reactive drift correction

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If you get an application error once, it'll correct itself and the issue won't be repeated

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Problem is, the winlogon crash is irrecoverable

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And that's just not acceptable

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873303222226403408/882967196928733224/Intel_PHDGD_Vista.7z Modded 7 HD 4000 driver for Vista ExKern

docR pinned a message to this channel. 19/01/2022 00:46

i may guess its the 2020 version

18:55

since the latest driver for the hd 4000 is from 2020

18:56

The milestone has been passed

version 100

20:13

waiting for version 420

old one was better

21:42

this one is more like android

newer android isn't that bad

15:13

(if you use it without google services)

New Android isn't bad at all, if on Lineage

16:00

I like it

ArrowOS is nice

16:47

for xioami phones

16:48

android 12 is meh on that rom because of the missing cool stuff for xiaomi

I'm avoiding Android 12 for a while. They got a little silly with that one

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But maybe Lineage will fix it up

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Lineage 18.1 is really good

i can upgrade to 12 now technically

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the thing i wanted is now here

docR

New Android isn't bad at all, if on Lineage

lineage os gang

ImSwordQueen

i can upgrade to 12 now technically

what is aux camera (edited)

20:21

i only heard about anx camera (edited)

probably typo

20:25

actually nvm

20:25

it's something else

Deleted User

what is aux camera (edited)

Aux often stands for auxiliary, so it might be a new cam.

MassClaw

Aux often stands for auxiliary, so it might be a new cam.

Auxiliary moad

ImSwordQueen

it's something else

what

20:27

hmmmm

remove miui

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obv it would detect aux camera miui as a typo of anx camera miui

ah i see

20:28

what redmi do you even have?

20:28

i have note 7

note 9 pro (edited)

20:29

i already said that

ah i forgor

(edited)

20:30

not bad

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actually preety good

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my uncle from serbia has a note 10 pro (edited)

20:30

i wish i got a newer phone than this

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but this is perfectly usable for me anyway

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if i could just run dolphin or aether sx2 little bit better

docR

I'm avoiding Android 12 for a while. They got a little silly with that one

12 is supposed to be a lot lighter weight & faster

Deleted User

i have note 7

eyyo same

Same

i have iphone 6s

ios is pretty efficient, though

Recently sold my Redmi 9 and bought an iPhone SE from a guy in the capital, not because it was better just because I wanted something really fresh to the table.

WinDVD

eyyo same

cool

08:33

are you on miui?

ApertureSketch

Recently sold my Redmi 9 and bought an iPhone SE from a guy in the capital, not because it was better just because I wanted something really fresh to the table.

when i was finding a phone (and bought redmi note 7) i saw redmi 9, but didnt buy it because it got mediatek chipset

08:36

i hate mediatek so much

Deleted User

are you on miui?

nope on a custom rom EvolutionX

17:37

i honestly didnt like MIUI

17:37

i do like the old MIUI 4 though

WinDVD

nope on a custom rom EvolutionX

perfect

WinDVD

i honestly didnt like MIUI

i kinda hated it

19:55

anyways this is a vista channel lol we should stop

yes

back to vista discussion

00:01

I plan on redoing shell32 myself sometime soon

00:01

so you can actually change resources without it shitting itself

00:03

also gonna add a few user32 stubs (cause ez) and include the powrprof dlls into the zip

Ximomite kernel extending

eww vista

Donnie6232

eww vista

is da best

Donnie6232

eww vista

what are you doing in this server (edited)

Deleted User

what are you doing in this server (edited)

advising

05:48

and ive been here for a very long time

05:49

longer than you i believe

He's here to advise over you. Cope

Donnie6232

advising

ok

hell32

15:05

that’s how I describe fixing this shit

15:05

imswordking you better be happy with it

Ximonite

imswordking you better be happy with it

yes

15:09

jk. i will not be happy with it trol

/s

looks epic

Betajyst4094

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that looks cool

Betajyst4094

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perfect

19:57

i love it

Why thanks people, is just buttons

20:04

Something cooler's coming with em (edited)

can you send the explorer with only that? i would love to use it on my vista install

Sure have it

20:12

Cn7explorer.zip

1.89 MB

20:12

With edited aero msstyles for the arrow button

ty

20:20

based

Betajyst4094

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That looks awesome

docR pinned a message to this channel. 25/01/2022 21:48

Thanks aye

chk builds sometimes have goodies in them

imagine installing the extended kernel on it

13:54

this is like an amalgamation

16:26

of windows server 2008 and windows home server

well it is Home Server 2008

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the SKU didn't randomly popup in r2

Scamdisk

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where can i find this

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

16:15

no nt 6.0 entries

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"for vista"

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XHCI_UASP_VISTA_WIN7_MUI.7z

585.95 KB

16:16

^^ actually for vista

docR pinned a message to this channel. 29/01/2022 16:16

https://vk.com/wall-103116043_12766

Переделал в Windows 7 интерфейс, чтобы был похожим на интерфейс Windows Vista. Полностью изменить в висту не возможно. Семерка не станет 100% висто

05:21

So some guy on my VK feed tried WinClient's 7 to Vista transformation pack. Dunno what he did but it looks borked af

05:21

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So I'll be trying to help him out, cause I remember my 7 to Vista transformation being pretty accurate with an older version of the same pack from WinClient

05:24

Oh dear... my nickname on this server is grammatically incorrect, when did I set that? I'll put it to something funnier I guess

05:25

Done :)

SaS Gas

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he did

05:48

half of the transformation

05:48

and used the 7 m2 theme

VK is blocked by my isp for some reason lol

05:52

Tor it is

05:53

I don't think he used winclient's pack step to step.. (edited)

Betajyst4094

I don't think he used winclient's pack step to step.. (edited)

Yeah I didn't read the whole post to be honest. I just got a reply back saying he followed it to look like some beta

06:32

So I just said I was new and should have read further

06:32

Cause I am new to the place and... well, it was 1 in the morning

Betajyst4094

VK is blocked by my isp for some reason lol

Bluepilled

the fuck is a whist

Betajyst4094

VK is blocked by my isp for some reason lol

In a lot of ISPs, not just yours.

https://twitter.com/DayTechHistory/status/1487787692389662728

Today in Tech History (@DayTechHistory)

15 years ago today, Windows Vista was released to general availability.

14:40

well guess vista is 15 now

imagine being younger than vista

well i'm younger than XP so uhh

@Betajyst4094 i love your shutdown/lock buttons so much

Scamdisk

well i'm younger than XP so uhh

xp doesn't count trol

older than vista still

14:43

if vista is older than you shut the fuck up

3

who needs text anyway

serjG

if vista is older than you shut the fuck up

Guess I'm out

ImSwordQueen

@Betajyst4094 i love your shutdown/lock buttons so much

Why thank you, is totally not salvaged from 7 beta

it matches my almost full transparancy vista

In the meanwhile I've been taking a look at this great creation

14:50

Very well made.

does windows update shit itself?

14:50

at first boot up

14:50

or did you disable it entirely

I turned that shi off like I always do

Haven't seen the update screen since forever.

you probably won't (and never because resetbase fucking the entire install if you update) see it

14:51

cool branding applied

You can take the arrow button from my msstyles by the way for full immersion (edited)

i like this way more tbh

This rp look hitting my nostalgia. kinda wanna get this on my metal (edited)

14:56

Love how you pulled it off. kudos

The only thing i couldn't get was the store

I only remember the store being useful on my lumia j9think

im trying to get the 8400 apps working now

Is possible at all?

15:00

I remember you done it before?

ImSwordQueen

@Betajyst4094 i love your shutdown/lock buttons so much

That orb looks great

That's beta's theme

I figured. Has it been released? Or is it still wip?

Betajyst4094

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.

That's 5252?

15:46

v1 looks quite different

the start button is from his theme

I'll give it a try. I've only used v1

The rest is from https://www.deviantart.com/hiromoshi/art/LHB-Beta-1-3-74899849

v1 looks like a mix of rtm and 5112

15:52

Ahhhh that theme. I remember seeing it once

Making a theme that combines visuals of vista and early 7

16:04

Have an ugly placeholder start menu

16:07

I would appreciate if someone dropped me 6730 explorer and msstyles

It would be cool a fully transparent vista

Is the idea by the way (edited)

16:09

Betajyst4094

Have an ugly placeholder start menu

You're an artist

Scamdisk

well i'm younger than XP so uhh

HP Envy

Betajyst4094

Have an ugly placeholder start menu

lol why the username in french

ImSwordQueen

imagine being younger than vista

10:45

10 months older than vista

10:45

or wait

10:45

almost 8 months nvm

It has 8.x sounds

21:18

ok this is weird (edited)

21:18

it uses the registry of 8.x somehow

21:19

this is the most weird corruption i ever got

21:21

OK I SEE WHAT'S UP

21:22

it sees windows 8.0 as the c: drive

21:22

as uses that instead of the right drive

21:22

checking on 8.0 right now

21:22

i hope it doesn't have these effects too

21:23

this is the most wack shit i ever seen

21:26

ok my vista install is totally gone

@ImSwordQueen what did you do to that thing

i cloned the drive to a ssd

21:28

even 11 was fucked

21:28

the only 2 oses that were unaffected were 10 and 8.0

21:29

11 had missing fonts even if they were installed

I'm almost done with the fixed shell32 for vista. I've been very busy with school and don't have much time to work on other projects, so don't expect anything besides shell32 from me for a while.

You actually done that?

Guess what I did

19:41

I accidentally ported 7 calc to vanilla vista (edited)

19:46

19:51

For anybody with vanilla vista

7_calc_for_vanilla_vista.zip

735.74 KB

19:52

Cheap as hell but it worked.

@ImSwordQueen

shell32.dll

12.37 MB

time to test it with vize

Ximonite

@ImSwordQueen

what's this

a probably working extended kernel shell32 that can be modified i presume

15:44

(and hope)

what is shell32 for

15:44

sorry i am a noob

icons

15:44

and stuff

i mean

a lot

wouldnt the non extended shell32 work just as good?

no because it's different-ish

ok

15:45

dont care to explain it i probably wouldnt even get it

skip

dont care to explain it i probably wouldnt even get it

i'll just assume it's important

basically the normal extended kernel shell32 would die if you modify the icons in it

yep

that's the only thing you need to know

ohhhh

finally vize on extended kernel omg

what is vize

we can have vista without the xp icons now

15:47

based of you xim

vista had xp icons????

15:47

where?

@skip in a few random places

15:48

ESP the device manager and whatnot

oh ok got it

classic start menu too (edited)

I’m glad that we can finally use vize

now i have to finish vista2x too

15:48

15:49

fucking

15:49

HOW DID YOU RUN IF YOU COMPLAINED BEFORE

hell32.dll (edited)

15:50

It is a library after all libraries

seriously

15:50

what's the fuss with libraries in this sevrer

15:51

it's like

15:51

one of the most unused windows features ever

15:51

it had been present in just one single windows release iirc (edited)

It’s a meme

i really need this. do i

arialgirl

It’s a meme

i get it

15:51

but why this specifically

skip

it had been present in just one single windows release iirc (edited)

2*

skip

it had been present in just one single windows release iirc (edited)

No, windows 8.x, 10 and 11 have libraries too

15:51

MS also gives documentation on how to use them there

2 with them enabled

15:51

3 with them disabled

skip

but why this specifically

DocR was one of the primary architects of vista7. It originated when he tried very hard (and unsuccessfully) to remove libraries from win7.

he took the L

15:52

Also, some blogger who made a criticism of windows 7 in 2010 said they were bad (edited)

15:53

But it’s mainly the former

arialgirl

DocR was one of the primary architects of vista7. It originated when he tried very hard (and unsuccessfully) to remove libraries from win7.

what happened when he did

You can ask him

15:53

Lol

15:54

try number dos

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it booted

Hmm

15:54

So this is like drift

15:54

@win32 @Ximonite it boots but sporadically

i replaced shell32

15:54

it didn't copy before

Oh

windows copy dialog doing some trolling

So it was just you

yea

Sorry for bothering you guys…

15:55

It works fine

15:55

Pebkac moment

15:56

@skip nice xp key in the status btw

it's the longhorn 4074 key (edited)

it's an xp key too lol

ive been messing around with 4074 today so it made sense to put it as my status to have quick access to it

15:57

i wonder if discord will flag it as piracy and remove it

15:57

nah. they will straight delete your acc

i am also in the ms community so i wonder if ill get banned

15:57

lmao

ImSwordQueen

nah. they will straight delete your acc

wait fr????

le moment of the truth

15:58

wat

momend

first time seeing that error

same

ImSwordQueen

le moment of the truth

also the vize pic got cut

15:59

with that weird cut off

That looks like an error message from win9x

I’m pretty sure config.sys is useless in win nt.

@Ximonite tysm

arialgirl

I’m pretty sure config.sys is useless in win nt.

does config.sys even exist in NT

No iirc

16:00

Except for compatibility in 32 bit oses

It's there, but as a backward compat thing.

arialgirl

No iirc

i think it's windows's way of saying 'screw you'

last time i checked. the extended kernel was x64 only trol

skip

i think it's windows's way of saying 'screw you'

nvm windows would say that in a much more mean way

16:01

btw can someone pin that shell32

extended kernel site is gonna be updated today

16:01

with new shit

new layout?

unofficial extended kernel update troll

16:02

but kinda official

16:03

real vista

@win32 you wanna put this in the mega?

vistaexkernsetup_02042022.7z

9.04 MB

new extended kernel update

sure. I was thinking about correcting one other issue with shell32 as well though.

cool

16:05

so you could fix the shell32 in there

Ximonite

@win32 you wanna put this in the mega?

what improvements does this have over the old release (except for a working shell32)

ResolveLocaleName and GetNamedLocaleHashNode actually work

32 bit app support when

/s

and extended powrprof dlls that should've been in the october release but win32 forgor

16:06

wait. no hal yet?

no

16:07

there is a hal that helps with haswell+

16:07

win32 could add it if he wants

16:07

but it's not drift correction, and you'll still notice some breakage on it

probably it's better to add it separately

16:08

so older pcs (ivy and before don't have any problems with it)

the biggest thing that has been fixed is you can actually use hyperthreading on haswell without the os shitting and dying

also. a new update in this section when

16:09

we got more programs working so why not add them

send a screenshot of more programs working

16:10

and I'll put it there

i will send some of your stuff and from the program compat channel

16:11

16:14

ok explorer likes to freeze

16:15

ok context menus are taking a fuck ton of time to load

16:17

ok it's just mc bedrock being funny

Ximonite

the biggest thing that has been fixed is you can actually use hyperthreading on haswell without the os shitting and dying

It's usable, but not ideal

16:24

Still helps quite a lot though

Ximonite

@win32 you wanna put this in the mega?

Oh damn you've done it?

gonna try vize

ty softpedia for limiting my bandwidth to pre optic fiber days.

bro I'm still living in the pre fiber optic days

16:30

and I still get more download than you troll

The updated ntoskrnl is unstable in virtualbox. So that will take a long time before I can consider releasing it.

16:31

I was about to copy over and rename shell32 in the vm when it bugchecked

is there anything that is stable in virtualbox? trol

@Ximonite this good?

pretty baller

actually let me redo it

16:32

i wanna get firefox and chromium in frame

wait are you using that one edit to firefox that makes it look old

16:32

i can tell by the icon

skip

is there anything that is stable in virtualbox? trol

Imminent death

going through what vize changes rn. might make my own changes

17:08

one I already found is the battery icon in device manager. gonna replace that with the 7 icon once I find what file it's stored in

new batt

batt.dll

101 KB

You're really remaking Vize?

not really

17:40

just looking through the ui and replacing icons I don't think fit in

Fair

17:41

So we'll call it Xize

I was thinking it would be part of our Service Pack 3

Ahhhh. I like the sound of that

17:42

SP1 did change the no gui boot screen aurora

17:42

So SPs were known to make some small visual changes on occasion

you think adding all the vize stuff is a good idea?

Probably ingredients for breakage later tbh. Unless you were to merge it and the kernel together and update both concurrently

I'm gonna make sure nothing collides

17:44

not adding shell32 to it

1

Collision course ahead, I'll summon anx to bring the plow truck lol jk

make it a res replacer thing instead

17:45

our unofficial sp3 has more than just resource changes

Ximonite

I was thinking it would be part of our Service Pack 3

combine Vista2X with your service pack 3 trol

17:46

actually

yes

17:46

good idea

why not doing that

some things like calc, wordpad, and paint from 7 are gonna be in the sp3 too

17:48

I'll make sure they work on vanilla vista too

let me get the updated branding for it

17:48

(the cooler full color one)

17:54

https://mega.nz/file/834z2IDL#vjL3NNqkX0Xaj9i3wSARajma6yNawpOqC-8mq6h8nIc

16.93 MB file on MEGA

17:54

not the full thing sadly

17:54

i lost some parts of it whyyy

17:55

i will redo the lost parts

shell32 is corrected, but nothing has changed.

17:57

winver but good

The corrected shell32 is in the new exkernel package I put in the mega.

17:59

Here is the Yandex.Disk link: https://disk.yandex.com/d/ZenJme6_6lEzNg

vistaexkernsetup_02042022.7z

View and download from Yandex.Disk

who needs 8.1 to make your discord browser for vista

ImSwordQueen

@Ximonite this good?

You can make calc work on vanilla by crippling the sqm functions

Ximonite

I'll make sure they work on vanilla vista too

Was replying to this

Betajyst4094

Guess what I did

See here

most people wouldn't do that though

I provided a package

Betajyst4094 pinned a message to this channel. 04/02/2022 18:47

cool. nativefier doesn't work anymore

18:47

it just makes an electron blank page

@docR you still have that blue win7 calc mui?

18:58

wait nvm

18:58

I have it

LMAO

19:10

Vista fucking crashed

19:10

When i tried to restart

19:10

Time save!

19:10

Ximonite

@docR you still have that blue win7 calc mui?

Indeed I do

Ximonite

I have it

Awesome

the difference between the modded blue and stock 7 blue is so little that I couldn't tell which one I had troll

1

19:33

took me opening mine and betajyst's in resource hacker side by side to figure it out

19:34

also @ImSwordQueen your winver doesn't work for me

19:34

literally does nothing

how

19:34

it opens for me

bruh idk

19:35

it just..

19:35

does nothing

let me check if it opens in the system32 folder

restarting rn

opens for me in system32 too

this always take an annoyingly long time

starting up?

ye

19:39

it sticks on Please Wait for at least a minute

i have the opposite thing (edited)

19:39

it takes a fuck ton to shut down

takes a fuck ton for me to shut down sometimes

19:39

but sometimes it’s fast

do you have a creative sound card installed? (edited)

no

19:40

this a t520

oh.

might try some different sata drivers soon to see if that’s the issue

Ximonite

this always take an annoyingly long time

shutting down?

20:04

ah

20:04

starting up

uhm

20:05

this does not look good....

oof

20:05

wsit

20:05

discord?

Minor display driver bug there

20:26

I have it with GeForce 365 and 372 too

Ximonite

takes a fuck ton for me to shut down sometimes

Both starts up and shuts down fast as hell on my side. And way too smooth with the fades

Ximonite

might try some different sata drivers soon to see if that’s the issue

yeah its super fast for me on my t520 so something is definitely up

the sata drivers I have on here are old as hell

22:03

iirc from 2012

22:04

2013

the sata driver definitely helped

02:05

I gotta Please wait... for 30 seconds now with this

I’m gonna make a collection of useful drivers that could be included in the extended kernel iso today

the branding but good

17:46

it doesn't look like 9x bmp shit anymore

17:47

Ultimate only (seems obvious)

Branding.zip

154.28 KB

windows 7 storport but it works on vista

storport.sys

185.5 KB

nightly setup native on windows vista

19:10

expected but whyyy

docR pinned a message to this channel. 05/02/2022 20:00

-brazil @firefox-nightly

I can't find user @firefox-nightly.

97b9 based

20:26

how does it know

ImSwordQueen

97b9 based

beta 9 fixed the crash?

no crashes in dev

20:27

nightly is an another story

nightly sucks anyway

it has the better logo though

long as the final release doesnt crash we’re good

dev doesn't crash

ImSwordQueen

how does it know

sussy

ImSwordQueen

it has the better logo though

resource hacker

it doesn't change the about one though

ImSwordQueen

it has the better logo though

literally icefox

20:29

aurorafox

pog

why can't we get this better logo for main firefox (edited)

20:29

just in orange

20:30

20:31

no crashes

great!

20:31

hopefully those crashes were just nightly being stupid and the final release works fine

nightly had a lot of breakage on the extended kernel

20:32

so it might be nightly

20:37

cool

ImSwordQueen

why can't we get this better logo for main firefox (edited)

y butten like that

because

21:36

i'm lazy

21:36

to extract the right button

Is there any alternative to vista boot changer for 64 bit?

anyone have drivers for amd b450 on vista?

Michael

anyone have drivers for amd b450 on vista?

amd doesnt https://www.amd.com/tr/support/chipsets/amd-socket-am4/b450

12:52

its only 7 x64, 10 x64 and 11

Michael

anyone have drivers for amd b450 on vista?

It's over the moment you mentioned AMD and windows together.

Michael

anyone have drivers for amd b450 on vista?

it wont work

14:42

bad_pool_header

i think some of them cause the bsod but some dont (iirc)

here are some drivers from the libraries

os that should work on vista

should_work_tm.7z

97.57 KB

16:04

anyone willing to test?

16:04

they work on my t520, but I'm pretty sure they are left unused for me (edited)

Most of them are IDE drivers, so most Vista users wouldn't be using them.

16:25

And I don't think we need to update the AHCI driver.

there are probably a few small improvements between the vista and 7 versions of them, and the 7 ones seem to work with no issue on vista

the ahci driver is completely functional in vista

16:28

and the ide one should work just fine as is

WinDVD

i think some of them cause the bsod but some dont (iirc)

its mainly poor legacy implementations in ryzen

16:54

it might actually work just fine in uefi, if you can get vista to boot in uefi

16:55

or if you have a board with solid legacy implementation, that might work too.

arialgirl

it might actually work just fine in uefi, if you can get vista to boot in uefi

getting vista to boot in uefi shouldn't be too hard

lemme try it while i still have a ryzen pc

16:56

tbh

16:57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6bRLfI3R2A

archeYR

Windows Vista pure UEFI 64 boot on modern hardware (CSM entirely di...

16:57

yeah ill test it

you'll prob need to install vista with csm first

16:57

as uefi in vista still requires csm for video

csm isnt the issue, it just has to be installed in uefi mode

16:58

i tried ubuntu 20.04 legacy on my ryzen system too, it didnt even boot to a desktop

16:58

but uefi works fine

video output won't work in pure uefi mode if you don't have your graphics card's drivers installed

my gpu is uefi though

16:59

this would be true with legacy gpus

arialgirl

my gpu is uefi though

that doesn't matter

arialgirl

my gpu is uefi though

what

16:59

UEFI is on the mainboard

gpus can have uefi bioses

16:59

look it up

keep in mind that vista's basic vga driver still uses csm functions

alright

and so you won't see anything in pure uefi

but im not disabling csm

it will boot

17:00

but you won't see anything

arialgirl

look it up

ohhh interesting

17:00

I mean it does make some sense

ill try it in a bit

17:01

tbh im not sure if itll help, but its worth a shot

17:02

theres still other major issues with vista and newer cpus, mainly the nvidia driver trying to use avx2 and causing crashes in dx11/ogl on haswell+

17:02

that even happens in kvm, i have to spoof the cpu to ivy to stop it

arialgirl

its mainly poor legacy implementations in ryzen

hmmm

18:10

i mean

18:10

i can run nt 3.51 on my system

18:10

is that poor legacy implementation

By poor I mean buggy

19:03

Also, the implementation widely affects the usb3 controller more than anything else

arialgirl

Also, the implementation widely affects the usb3 controller more than anything else

that's also an issue on intel systems

19:30

there's no backwards compatibility for older OSes which causes issues

Yes, in general with newer hardware

19:34

This is why I prefer ivy bridge

that's an issue with usb 3.0

20:17

and 2.0

20:17

actually 2.0 maybe not

20:17

but definitely 3.0

20:18

it is backwards compatible with 2.0 and 1.1 peripherals and devices

Vruh 2

that's an issue with usb 3.0

exactly

06:23

those controllers don't support acting like older usb controllers for older OSes

06:23

which is not an issue on haswell or earlier on intel i think

06:23

and for amd it's fm2+/am3+ max?

arialgirl

or if you have a board with solid legacy implementation, that might work too.

wait so it can break the b450 drivers worse if you use legacy or uefi?

arialgirl

or if you have a board with solid legacy implementation, that might work too.

i am running my windows 7 as legacy and it works fine

11:29

gotta do it that way so i can activate with daz, cant activate win7 ultimate on uefi

then dont use ultimate lol

11:48

use professional with kms

skip

use professional with kms

or enterprise

11:49

it's ultimate but with kms as the only way to activate

enterprise is the same as ultimate?

11:50

so ultimate is just a cashgrab then

11:50

lol

you can activate ultimate on uefi

12:12

literally a github link pinned in this very channel

i forgor about that

skip

use professional with kms

no i will just keep it on legacy its not a big deal

12:27

there is literally no benefit to uefi anyways, only downsides

12:27

i disable it on all my systems when i can and run legacy

laughs in multiple bootloaders on same drive and 128 partitions

skip

laughs in multiple bootloaders on same drive and 128 partitions

dont care, with uefi you can write to the bios settings from OS userland and essentially semibrick the bios

12:28

its not a good thing

Michael

dont care, with uefi you can write to the bios settings from OS userland and essentially semibrick the bios

there are also legacy bios updaters that work from os userland i dont see what youre trying to mean here

skip

there are also legacy bios updaters that work from os userland i dont see what youre trying to mean here

there have been many times where i have semibricked my bios with uefi, its just a massive pain

12:30

i have never had that happen on a legacy bios

ok

Michael

there have been many times where i have semibricked my bios with uefi, its just a massive pain

how?

#RadMorning

how?

i have no clue, it happened a lot though

#RadMorning

how?

efi variables getting fucked i guess

skip

so ultimate is just a cashgrab then

no

14:02

since Enterprise is only available to businesses

14:02

Ultimate was only available to consumers

14:03

now thankfully Microsoft made things easier

14:03

Home - home user Pro - home or business user Enterprise - business user Education - for schools (edited)

14:03

then add all the stupid SKUs and ruin this argument

14:03

Home S Mode - for dumb home users

14:04

Windows 11 SE - Education but with a differrent name

14:04

Enterprise LTSC / IoT/ IoT LTSC - Embedded applications

Se isn't really edu

14:06

it's edu with more stuff to lock

14:06

And no store

yes

14:09

wait actually Education is just Pro/Enterprise with a different licensing model

but there's more

14:48

Enterprise G - Chinese Goverment

14:48

Business - a Microsoft 365 thing

also N SKUs for the Europeans who think Microsoft are being anti-competitive by bundling a media player and a browser

kn

but they didn't take any issues with Apple who didn't even let you change your default browser on iOS until 2 years ago (edited)

14:53

and to the fact that they still force other browsers to use their rendering engine

14:53

thereby making other browsers just different GUI skins for their browser

here is the kicker

15:09

Enterprise G N exists

15:10

for whatever reason

Experimental extended NDIS for Windows Vista Additions: NdisActiveGroupCount NdisBuildScatterGatherList NdisCurrentGroupAndProcessor NdisCurrentProcessorIndex NdisFreeMemoryWithTag NdisFreeMemoryWithTagPriority NdisFreeScatterGatherList NdisGroupActiveProcessorCount NdisGroupMaxProcessorCount NdisMaxGroupCount NdisProcessorIndexToNumber NdisProcessorNumberToIndex Useful Info for testing: Pay attention to the MiniportDriverCharacteristics struct inside a network driver. This struct has 2 versions. v1 - Size is 0x88 and MinorNdisVersion should be set to 0 v2 - Size is 0x98 and MinorNdisVersion should be set to 1

ndis.sys

716 KB

Code audit is a pass.

15:44

But I have no use for it, unless my network drivers can getprocaddress NDIS

nice

15:52

I tested a newer intel wifi driver made for 7 (v15.3.1) and the driver loads properly with no error codes, but cannot find wifi networks.

I think several other functions did change in NDIS 6.1, going from memory.

you mean 6.2?

16:15

vista got NDIS 6.1 with service pack 1

6.2, then.

how do i fake my os version to a program in windows vista with extended kernel

osver.ini

13:15

in the windows folder

Scamdisk

in the windows folder

thanks

13:16

uh i don't have it

Create it

yeah but what will i have to write in it

RayZen

yeah but what will i have to write in it

[C:\Path\To\the.exe] (or [global] but dont leave it set to 6.1 and reboot or it can cause major problems iirc) Enabled=1 ALL OPTIONS curtesy of win32: Win7SuperVerFix Win8SuperVerFix Win10SuperVerFix FirefoxFix (a lighter version of Win7SuperVerFix) You can also set these values: MajorVersion=anything but usually you can leave this default and just use minorversion=1 MinorVersion=anything) BuildNumber=you will probably want 7601 if you set it to 6.1 CSDVersion (the service pack string) PlatformId (caution, as the standard value of 2 is used to indicate that the OS is Windows NT. 1 represents 9x and 0 represents Win32s) (edited)

@win32 can you pin this?

win32 pinned a message to this channel. 18/02/2022 17:46

totally 7601 you sneaky

lmao why the XP Tablet PC edition sticky notes?

because MS hasn't updated it in Vista (edited)

20:19

took them till 7 to do it

what (edited)

20:19

real?

yes

lmfaoo

20:20

they just added the aero border to it

20:20

didn't even bother to fix the caption corners such that they wouldn't be rounded

more like the borders get added by dwm

it shouldn't though

20:21

unless they were doing some weird shit

20:21

on XP it just has a drop shadow, which is set by a different flag (edited)

iirc in Basic it looks exactly like on XP

https://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/4069-get-vista-snipping-tool-sticky-notes-inkball-texas-holdem-rtm-ported-to-xp/

Get Vista Snipping Tool, Sticky Notes, Inkball, Texas Hold'em RTM P...

(UPDATED) GET ORIGINAL VISTA SNIPPING TOOL, STICKY NOTES, INKBALL GAMES, TEXAS HOL'DEM + WINDOWS JOURNAL HERE ON XP(Get Vista / Windows 7 Snipping Tool on XP)Note: Btw to get more Vista and Windows 7 applications and features on XP then you can please also visit: List of Most Vista Applications a...

20:22

"sticky notes from vista ported to xp"

20:22

the fucking sticky notes app is straight out of XP Tablet Edition (2001) (edited)

20:23

funny that they did a sticky notes gadget in vista but not a proper updated sticky notes app

~~still wish there was a luna variation based on sticky notes~~

1

i mean someone could do it

i mean the luna textures and such are slightly different in sticky notes

also no 7 version on vista anytime soon

20:36

if someone wants to port it to vista trol

this arson

20:51

basic taskbar

20:51

and aero start menu

read the license terms. done

The shortest license terms I've ever read!

I've seen legit Windows ISOs that have such short EULAs

21:26

like they're probably ISOs that the end consumer shouldn't have

RaduTek

like they're probably ISOs that the end consumer shouldn't have

vl eula is short indeed

does someone know where is this located in the theme with wsb?

it should just be a normal progress bar ?

now just waiting for my 2667 v2, then i return the 1650 v2

23:27

23:28

Then, the only change I'll make in the future is switching to a Kepler GPU for Hackintosh and better 2k drivers. A Titan Black, since that has 6 GB VRAM

Vruh 2

it should just be a normal progress bar ?

No, it's a different PNG resource in the theme

06:36

On the regular Aero theme it's the blue progress bar fill, which is wider than the other colors

Buttons, boxes & controls > progressbars > Fill > device storage Buttons, boxes & controls > progressbars > FillVertical > device storage Buttons, boxes & controls > progressbars > TransparentBar > device storage background Buttons, boxes & controls > progressbars > TransparentBarVertical > device storage background

weird fonts are broken

13:23

and i'm sure with this config it should work

Add =1 to firefoxfix too

@Betajyst4094

13:28

nvm fixed it

much needed upgrade

20:07

looks a lot better

21:38

ye that does look better

beta made it so credits to him

tried redesigning the dialer program for vista

where is the redesign

in deez nutz

ImSwordQueen

tried redesigning the dialer program for vista

"mario mario" and "luigi mario"

23:11

i think this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EchwIoG9P2U (edited)

Crash OverRide

Super Mario Bros Go to Jail - Super Mario Bros - 1993

https://youtu.be/bsStHxtVr_w

HattenTatten

The Mojave Experiment

09:55

and https://youtu.be/ouNksHi-MmE

Michael MJD

15 Years of Windows Vista - Unboxing a BRAND NEW Copy!

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

and https://youtu.be/ouNksHi-MmE

WOOOOOOOOOOOO

10:07

FUCK YOU YOUTUBE FOR NOT RECOMMENDING ME THIS VIDEO

Oh

11:54

Cool

does someone know where are the firewall and security center cpl panels are located in system32?

is there an iso with exkernel v7 preinstalled?

the forum post is pinned

17:24

in this very channel

17:24

but ok

17:24

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=44&p=64#p64

Windows Vista with Extended Kernel (Current Version is v26102021)

Wait, what is this? Well, let's just say, it's exactly what it sounds like, so basically this is a Windows Vista x64 iso with the Extended Kernel by win32 prein

wasn't sure if that had the latest version

17:29

thanks

I didn't know that were up to date either. Thanks for keeping up on that :)

guess been consistent with the actual ext kernel version has created some confusion

Oh no, I like your versioning scheme

17:56

I just haven't viewed your forum post in a while to notice is all

17:57

It's rather self explanatory in the title

17:57

But maybe use YYYY-MM-DD

17:58

2021.26.10

17:58

Less ambiguous

are AMD windows 7 drivers going to work with vista kernelex?

08:58

using R5 235

serjG

are AMD windows 7 drivers going to work with vista kernelex?

no, but your gpu should be supported

RayZen

no, but your gpu should be supported

I did get them going in XP

08:59

using HD 8470 drivers (edited)

09:00

since 235 is rebranded 8470 (edited)

serjG

I did get them going in XP

yeah then it will definitely work

09:00

there are newer unofficial drivers than ones for xp so yeah

RayZen

there are newer unofficial drivers than ones for xp so yeah

link?

https://msfn.org/board/topic/173175-catalyst-1412-omega-on-vista

Catalyst 14.12 ("Omega") on Vista

I realize that the number of people running Vista is quite small and the ones running Vista with a recentAMD Radeon is smaller still. But I wanted to share a modification for making Catalyst 14.12work on Vista since the last release officially supported for Vista was Cat 13.12.It seems like this ...

09:07

this i think

thanks

09:10

I could use intel HD 4600 if this doesn't work

let's see if radeon r7 360 is in there, doubting it

09:11

oh it doesn't have infs

there are also modded catalyst drivers for vista in 15.x range (edited)

09:11

which is said to support rx 300 series cards

yeah, but requires modifying the fuck out of them

09:12

to allow rX 300 series cards to work

change of plan

09:22

gonna use the intel hd 4600 (edited)

for me i gotta modify the damn drivers to implement shit related to 665F

6519's osk works on vista extended kernel apparently

11:18

neat

11:18

@Ximonite probably something you would like to have in windows vista sp3 (edited)

11:20

ALSO THIS THING CAN BE MODDED APPARENTLY

11:20

ALRIGHT THIS IS A MORE BASED VERSION OF THE ON SCREEN KEYBOARD

ImSwordQueen

@Ximonite probably something you would like to have in windows vista sp3 (edited)

vista sp3???

12:10

will there be an x86 version

Ask xim

12:18

Probably not

cringe

i got that metioned amd driver working but uhhh

14:15

it isnt supposed to be this small at native res

Get it working on 8.0 trol

meh, i can already get a older driver version from 2016 to work on 8.0

Scamdisk

it isnt supposed to be this small at native res

i dont see a problem, the smaller the ui is the more space you have

it's so much of a problem i have to set the res to 1600x900 to fill the entire screen

Vista on that res looks nice tbh

Scamdisk

it isnt supposed to be this small at native res

that's actually normal for those old amd drivers when you are using hdmi

14:26

what you see happening is called underscanning

14:26

you need to go to amd catalyst settings and find something related to scaling or underscan

14:27

there's also a way to do it using registry editor

14:28

ok it's in scaling options

Interesting

nothing interesting about it

14:29

that was normal for older catalyst drivers

Well this morning I got drivers going via snappy driver

14:32

Not sure if I should try those other drivers

14:32

Instructions look difficult

normal yet somehow stupid to do that in the first place

Scamdisk

normal yet somehow stupid to do that in the first place

yeah

thankfully they did learn and they don't do this with modern drivers

RayZen

nothing interesting about it

Interesting i mean that it only does that with hdmi cables

but they intentionally kill 8.0 installs

Using nqn for an emoji we have in the server (edited)

14:48

mfw the driver works much better than i expected

14:58

especially after replacing some files to get rid of some missing functions errors

Scamdisk

i got that metioned amd driver working but uhhh

yeah it is actually i think

15:02

that’s what 1080p looks like on vista

fixed it actually

15:02

it was some stupid thing amd set by default

this thing works

15:04

ImSwordQueen

i can't go back whyyy

the fact this damn driver is actually very stable

17:33

for a gpu + os combo it didn't officially support

and the fact that it’s radeon troll

if a nvidia 1xxx card on vista would be any better

cry about it

17:47

you fucker

: D

ah so it worked after all

it didn't

18:04

it just gave a bunch of errors and did nothing

damn, it sure did tell something was very off

at least the latest version of vista works

Scamdisk

if a nvidia 1xxx card on vista would be any better

iirc 1070 actually does work kinda properly on 372.70

oh? damn

19:06

5.9

19:08

epic

literally the max on vista

ya

how do you make the borders actually transparent when you take a screenshot?

19:13

thats quite cool

aeroshot

Ximonite

iirc 1070 actually does work kinda properly on 372.70

Oh?

yea

19:24

it’s officially supported

so 1070 works while 1050 doesnt? (edited)

I'd like to say 1050 came out after 1070.

huh

19:45

i didnt actually know that

19:45

fair enough

Scamdisk

the fact this damn driver is actually very stable

wait wait you what?

inf fuckery

19:48

plus modded driver files to fix missing functions

would rx470 work with this?

doubt it

19:48

thats too new

19:49

sadly

well shit

so you still gotta wait till a much newer driver is gotten to work

seems like it

@Scamdisk https://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp62501-63000/sp62748.exe could you try modifying this Intel HD 9.17.10.2932 Rev.B driver for my PC to work on vista? for fun

whats the gpu name

19:55

??? i dont know (edited)

Check the specifications of your CPU

19:56

on Intel's website

driver from 2012

i have a feeling it should support vista

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/53418/intel-celeron-processor-g550-2m-cache-2-60-ghz/specifications.html

Intel® Celeron® Processor G550 (2M Cache, 2.60 GHz) - Product Speci...

Intel® Celeron® Processor G550 (2M Cache, 2.60 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.

19:57

Intel HD Graphics for 2nd gen Intel processors

19:58

maybe that's Intel HD Graphics 2000?

either 2000 or 3000

19:58

so it should be Vista compatible

19:58

without any fuckeries

The nvidia leak got some potentially useful stuff

dx12on7 private symbols

20:04

therefore dx12 games on vista could teoretically be possible

Betajyst4094

The nvidia leak got some potentially useful stuff

the one from the hackers that have 4 broken brain cells? (edited)

so basically useful stuff relating to directx

20:06

you can't take someone seriously with this

does the leak also have private symbols for the actual drivers

wait

20:07

with the leaked drivers we can find the needed functions for them

20:07

and port the missing ones to vista somehow (edited)

20:07

or would it be illegal

private symbols can also sometimes leak by accident

20:08

like MS accidentally leaking Vista private symbols

proper src

20:09

and not only the private symbols

private symbols iirc are less spooky than the src

Scamdisk

like MS accidentally leaking Vista private symbols

didn't ba got windows 10 private symbols? (edited)

20:09

and got into drama because of them

oh yeah, that incident

i wonder how they got them

i do know how, but well, not gonna say anything else on the matter

They themselves talked about it

zammis

Betajyst4094

They themselves talked about it

i did not know that. any link about it?

You can find their tg group name in news articles easily

20:14

They hack companies for a living so I'd advise to be careful

ok i'm not going to join lol

~~what if they hacked rovio mobile ltd.~~

20:14

jk

not too valuable

inb4 these guys might hack MS worse than what Zammis did

20:15

jk no

they someone get the vista src and leaks it /s (edited)

Well, if you pay em enough..

ImSwordQueen

they someone get the vista src and leaks it /s (edited)

that would be endgame for the ext kernel

Which I do not advise either

it's only matter of time that something comes out

20:16

it's not if or how

20:17

basically a windows build timebomb that you don't know when it expires

ImSwordQueen

not too valuable

angry birds betas

20:20

protos

still not too valuable to risk jail for

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I will compile more complex applications for Vista targets.

21:35

But they will be FOSS.

21:39

The first modification to my custom Chromium build will be to include the locale paths that are compared in a log. Run it on Vista and 7 and see how they differ.

21:40

It will be easier once I get the second Xeon.

win32

I will compile more complex applications for Vista targets.

custom discord client that supports bd when

21:43

wait

21:44

will you use these forks to see what's wrong with the path-ing of vista right?

21:44

nvm. i'm apparently too stupid to read

win32

I will compile more complex applications for Vista targets.

That's awesome

calculate large vectors in c trol

win32

The first modification to my custom Chromium build will be to include the locale paths that are compared in a log. Run it on Vista and 7 and see how they differ.

Win32 Chromium fork? flush

ImSwordQueen

will you use these forks to see what's wrong with the path-ing of vista right?

That will be the main objective, as Chromium is otherwise very capable of running on Vista now.

except for keeping stuff from not logging you off of course

ImSwordQueen

except for keeping stuff from not logging you off of course

that’s not even an issue now with brave

21:46

sites keep me in

21:46

except discord

Ximonite

that’s not even an issue now with brave

brave though

brave

Win32's Advanced Chrome Extreme Browser(R)

make a custom brave fork and then it will be good trol

1

a custom chromium fork

21:47

you mean

Vruh 2

brave

better than basically any other chromium fork tho troll

1

Na

Advanced Chrome was great til it got tore up

Perhaps if the issue cannot be easily resolved in the extended kernel, I will fix this in the fork itself and this may take on a life of its own. I have already helped start a NT 6.x usermode modification industry.

i...

ungoogled

don't care about nvidia drivers

in the extended kernel

21:48

fuck i can't make good lyrics

Vruh 2

Na

they put toggle switches on the spying garbage for you to turn it off… unlike any other fork

better not to have it in the first place

yeah

ungoogled is my goto

win32

Perhaps if the issue cannot be easily resolved in the extended kernel, I will fix this in the fork itself and this may take on a life of its own. I have already helped start a NT 6.x usermode modification industry.

You mean your own Chromium fork take off and get volunteer maintainers? That would sure secure all NT 6.x users

but i just use firefox really

same

which i'm beginning to doubt aswell

Same

21:49

I like it, but even Firefox will need a fork soon too

firefox <------------ good

docR

I like it, but even Firefox will need a fork soon too

librewolf

telemetry wise brave and firefox are actually pretty similar

actually

21:50

we lost feodor2 fork

21:50

:(

fuck you putin

He gave up?

he didn't

Talking his Quantum port

but the ukranian russian war made him not release it in a good timeframe

Chromium is mostly cpp from the looks of it, Firefox is converting to Rust. I have been picking up cpp fairly quickly, but rust is not on my radar yet.

let me get the github post

win32

Chromium is mostly cpp from the looks of it, Firefox is converting to Rust. I have been picking up cpp fairly quickly, but rust is not on my radar yet.

They've been adopting Rust at a snails pace tho

https://github-com.translate.goog/Feodor2/Mypal/issues/57?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=it&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Feodor2 выкладуй ужо шонибудь пока не пришла повестка! · Issue #57 ...

собственно сабж... (хотел прицепить смайлик но передумал)

It'll be 2040 by the time they've fully migrated lol

Damn

21:52

Hope he keeps himself safe

same

Draft Tobin to fight in the war

21:52

wait

21:53

what about roytam

Hong Kong had a big upswing in covid cases, but is a lot more peaceful than it was in 2019.

at least i got a good replacement osk for vista

21:55

looks good too

21:59

honestly. if somehow this error gets patched without disabling uac and we can get the 7 osk working it would be great

ImSwordQueen

at least i got a good replacement osk for vista

Another addition for USP3 lol

docR

Another addition for USP3 lol

the 7 one would've been better

22:11

but the error i posted makes it not possible to use it on vista

ImSwordQueen

at least i got a good replacement osk for vista

Which 7 build did you take this from? Also is it possible to modify the key text-images

Marda33

Which 7 build did you take this from? Also is it possible to modify the key text-images

6519

13:22

Sadly no font settings

What about the images for the key BGs (edited)

Didn't check if you can mod those

13:28

I will check in a hour

What files need to be copied to run on Vista? Is there an mui?

docR

What files need to be copied to run on Vista? Is there an mui?

dui70.dll and osk2.exe itself (edited)

15:49

found the best keyboard for vista /s

Delicious 8 bit colors

Marda33

What about the images for the key BGs (edited)

probably you can modify the uifile to mod it

15:51

but nothing really

15:51

if win32 patches the uac check for these type of programs then we could get the 7 one running on vista

^ also the missing functions needed for them obv

ok probably is impossible

ImSwordQueen

dui70.dll and osk2.exe itself (edited)

Can you attach those here?

does 6519 osk work with windows 7 dui70.dll?

Ximonite

does 6519 osk work with windows 7 dui70.dll?

‍♂️

16:25

osk.exe

556.5 KB

16:25

dui70.dll

829.5 KB

16:25

osk.exe.mui

7 KB

16:26

osk.exe has been modified to include the 7 osk logo instead of the xp one (edited)

Nice work!

docR pinned a message to this channel. 01/03/2022 16:27

(if someone wants to do the extra mile and port the 7 one to vista

)

16:28

that has the real aero coolness

True as that is, this is still cool enough

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

so these all go in system32?

16:34

take down the originals for each?

docR

so these all go in system32?

yep

Got it working on my install

16:44

Nice find!

can someone here give me the vanilla syswow64 kernel32 file?

That file is unchanged in extended kernel, no?

17:09

By vanilla do you mean RTM?

docR

That file is unchanged in extended kernel, no?

Yep

wait no it isn't

17:37

i read it wrong

it gives errors here and idk what's going on

17:50

syswow64 is totally cooked

if the 32 bit subsystem was completely broken windows wouldn't boot but sure

It can be completely broken and still boot, if you use a "bad" kernel32. That includes one of my x64 wrapper attempts. No WOW64 init stuff in the wrapper, so it doesn't do anything for WOW64.

win32

It can be completely broken and still boot, if you use a "bad" kernel32. That includes one of my x64 wrapper attempts. No WOW64 init stuff in the wrapper, so it doesn't do anything for WOW64.

weird that it happens. i even reinstalled the extended kernel 3 times

me when vistaglazz without vistaglazz

Scamdisk

me when vistaglazz without vistaglazz

What's vistaglazz

13:28

Oh nvm

13:28

I see now

just shoved original vista taskbar textures on top of the theme from very early builds of 7

13:33

seems to achieve the same effect, for the most part

does someone know how to make PE load a custom ntoskrnl without the "haha. your file is corrupted"? (edited)

16:28

literally i tried everything. even using sakura's patched boot.wim that has the custom boot screen

Can you try updating it's checksum?

going to try that

ImSwordQueen

does someone know how to make PE load a custom ntoskrnl without the "haha. your file is corrupted"? (edited)

you need to enable no integrity checks

18:23

see the readme on my github page

18:23

https://github.com/dotexe1337/nt61

GitHub - dotexe1337/nt61: kernel update for windows 7 (nt 6.1)

kernel update for windows 7 (nt 6.1). Contribute to dotexe1337/nt61 development by creating an account on GitHub.

Michael

you need to enable no integrity checks

already done that

18:28

the wim file i used already had them patched

18:28

(because sakura and his custom 6002 boot wim with the xp boot screen)

o

18:29

set the checksum with cff explorer then

18:29

if u havent

doing it rn

18:30

i'm making the boot.wim rn

18:32

thats strange

18:32

are u sure the kernel is patched properly

18:32

if ur patches are wrong then thats probably why

probably

18:33

i used the same method to patch the main install ntskrnl and it worked though

18:33

weird

pe checksum

ok it was my patching method being stupid

18:45

now it works

18:47

now sakura's boot.wim is stupid so i'm not going to use it

18:48

actually jk. it weights less than mine

i think this is wrong

21:42

i don't think a vista ultimate image can be 9GB (edited)

@Scamdisk i noticed that the size of boot.wim matters at loading the eula and to install windows

22:47

with vista's setup

22:48

it takes half the time to go to the eula page with a 150mb boot.wim instead of a 250mb one

22:50

i would test this theory with the extended kernel iso to check if it changes anything

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=65

Win7 Apps for Vista ExKern ~Calc, Wordpad, Paint, OSK~

For use with Win32's Extended Kernel, v2021.10 or greater. See pertinent resources below: Extended Kernel homepage: Related thread on this forum: https://forum.

docR pinned a message to this channel. 02/03/2022 23:17

noice

23:21

btw. we need someone to update the extended kernel website

23:22

hope i didn't leave anything out in the credits

is the calculator the vanilla 7601 one

23:22

or beta's?

Vanilla

alr

but reskinned slightly

23:23

its very subtle

23:23

wordpad has the vista paint icon on ribbon

docR

its very subtle

i don't see anything changed?

exactly

23:24

the difference is very subtle, you'd have to directly compare. even then its hard to spot lol

only the menu bar is changed

the blue color around the buttons is a bit darker

23:25

but just barely

oh i noticed

yeah

i thought it was a metro thing

nah

with colors and stuff

paint and wordpad use the vista icons

23:26

otherwise unchanged

because i'm used with startallback colorizing everything

ah

so yeah

23:26

i mean look at this

23:26

and this

Yeah I can see it

it almost looks like that if you change the border colors it would change too

nah

23:27

btw about the osk

23:27

you changed the windows logo on it?

nope

oh

that's vanilla 6519

okay

23:27

i thought you changed that

i only changed the program icon

ahhhhh

from the xp one to the vista one

gotcha

23:27

yeah

23:28

that i did notice

23:28

looks really nice

it's even used in vista

23:28

just not in the program

Vista has mostly rid itself of its Server 2003-ness now lol

i wonder what the devs smoked that day

ImSwordQueen

just not in the program

thats strange

ImSwordQueen

i wonder what the devs smoked that day

same thing they smoked when they wrote up the x64 hal

now we have to redesign inkball

23:29

stikynot

So now all thats left is fixing shell32 to patch out those remaining Server 2003 icons

23:29

subtle as they are

i mean already done?

23:29

vize does that

Isn't Vize and Extended Kernek

?

if you use the official one yes

23:30

let me get you the 2022 one

theres an unofficial one?

offered by xim

oh shit xim did it?

https://disk.yandex.com/d/ZenJme6_6lEzNg

Yandex

Finds everything

23:31

it's not actually pinned anywhere

23:31

also doc. do you want the windows flag winver too for vista?

23:31

this

sure

ImSwordQueen

https://disk.yandex.com/d/ZenJme6_6lEzNg

Vize for Extended Kernel

docR pinned a message to this channel. 02/03/2022 23:32

if windows doesn't put the icons behind the taskbar

docR

Vize for Extended Kernel

no that's just normal extended kernel

23:33

with a patched shell32

23:33

that doesn't kill itself if you modify it

oh

23:33

I'll let @Ximonite clear that up then

@docR

mydadwenttotheshoptogetmilkbuthefuckingtrippedonsomeacidandfuckingdied.zip

61.6 KB

Thats the winver icon?

yep

23:35

ported from 7

its safe even with the non-ximonite shell32?

yep

23:35

it's just the program icon

23:36

the dialog is unchanged

whats all this

multimc stuff

23:36

lol wtf

23:36

you sent me minecraft

23:36

wait

23:36

i linked the wrong thing

23:36

wtf did happen

23:37

thats pretty funny tho

wtf are you tripping doc

23:37

i just downloaded the zip

23:37

and it's the winver

okay i do be smoking them sorry

no problem lol

got it lol

making vista great again

beautiful

wtf unbased branding

since you made it. want to make a forum post or post it here?

23:38

oh yeah

i see low quality colors

i need to change that too

23:39

You should make a compilation archive

23:39

put this and your branding together into a post

yeah i'm going to do that

and i'll pin it

tommorrow

alright

i can't see the vista branding the same anymore

23:39

when i upscaled it

can you share again? or is it pinned in here?

it looks wrong

23:40

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834213768086683660/939578028177096794/Branding.zip

23:40

already pinned

23:40

also ultimate only

noted

i'm going to make all brandings

this stuff should go into extended kernel ngl

and will make a forum post

23:41

no spoiler but i remember xim saying something about a usp3 for vista (edited)

ImSwordQueen

no spoiler but i remember xim saying something about a usp3 for vista (edited)

yep

i did the same for xp because why not

23:43

it gives shine to these old banners

better?

What are you using to take the screenshot

lightshot

It somehow lowers the quality

23:44

Huh weird

let me try snipping tool

It's fine

23:45

Probably that's on my end

oh

Win32's osver.ini is a god send

yes

23:45

it is

With [global] i can use 6002 but good

Lol you spoof 6002?

yea

23:48

I can't stand having 6003

23:48

It doesn't feel right

the build mismatch bothers that much eh?

23:48

it is a little... weird

23:48

but anyway

23:48

this is very cool

It doesn't cause instabilities from what i seen

23:49

Very cool indeed

its essentially a better windows 7 now trol

23:49

So tomorrow you'll formally post the winver mod and branding? I have it all archived here now

Yep

applying it on my laptop now

I will

awesome

23:50

great work

23:50

i'm going to compare your upscaled winver with the original now

Look at the windows flag

23:51

That's where the change mostly is

I don't remember if i changed the classic start menu thing or not

ahhhh. i see now

23:53

yeah

23:53

original

23:53

yours

Yep

23:53

So little but when you see it you can't unsee it easily

Yep!

It almost bothers me now

I can't unsee it now

23:54

or the little banding on the colored part outside the logo

23:54

on the green/blue part

23:54

always noticed that

Is it gone on mine?

yeah

Also the orb in system properties is fixed

whats changed there?

same thing

damn

23:55

you went all out

that one wasn't visible enough

23:56

And still can't notice the difference without zooming

I don't mind the few 2003 icons here and there, but the branding is a welcome touch

i almost got rid of all xp icons on clevine lol

23:57

And all the windows xp flags too

oh i really don't mind those, but winver lacking an icon outright was silly lol

It was like that since nt 3.x

23:57

Only 7 got it

23:57

Then in 8.x they removed it

23:58

And still in 11 it has the program icon instead of a logo

may as well port this too, hell

23:58

vize's regedit resource

23:58

i modded 7's regedit to use that before

Why not install vize (after installing the patched shell32)

It wont overwrite any kernel files?

No

23:59

It's just resource hacker

What resources does it change?

But automatic

It edits the in-place files?

23:59

ohhhhhh

ye

so thats how it works

23:59

k that makes a lot more sense

23:59

now this modded exkern ximonite did

Ipacks do the same thing

he sent me a rough draft some time back

00:00

it fucked some thing up

00:00

firefox no longer opened

00:00

has that since been addressed?

it opens on mine

00:00

I mained it and 0 problems with it

Well I'll let Xim comment on it first, then give it a try

00:01

having Vize back would be welcome

You can try it in a vm

when did you last try it?

Today lol

00:03

im basing clevine2X on it

00:05

If you don't trust it maining it then wait for xim

yeah i'll wait to see what he says first, to be safe

00:07

having vize back

00:07

and the original vize installer is good?

Yeah. I used that

That's awesome

00:10

have the original site on internet archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150517013849/http://www.vizeos.net/

00:10

so yeah, from reading. it does just modify the existing system files

00:10

pretty neat

So assuming fixed shell32, this can be run after each extended kernel update

docR

it fucked some thing up

that was the one win32 fucked up

05:07

imswordking is using my shell32

So everything in that installer is safe then? Good shell32 will be in the next update officially?

Ximonite

imswordking is using my shell32

very based shell32

12:40

@docR doing the thing

12:40

i choosen to do server as well

12:42

ffs microsoft choosen to use shellbrd for different branding in vista doom

(edited)

12:45

thank you microsoft for making the classic start menu banner look ass

❗ ❗ i need windows vista enterprise branding ❗ ❗

13:10

downloading the extended kernel v5.5 iso because i know that it has the enterprise sku inside

ok got the enterprise branding

13:22

going to finish it and then release the zip here for the client counterpart

13:22

and will release the complete thing on the forum

soon™️ (edited)

13:54

@docR

️

13:54

can't post them

Would I be able to slipstream the WU SHA2 patch-updates to an all-versions Vista ISO?

13:57

If so how

i think you need to install it on an already installed vista install

So can’t slipstream them

13:59

Also does the root certificate updater from 2020 still work? The one with the blue background

idk.

yea

well i actually did slipstream that update with dism++

14:32

and it works

Didn't you need to patch an another file too?

14:33

Actually. It might be possible

no? i just slipstreamed the sha-2 update normally, but if you want updates, then yeah, you gotta patch shit

He probably meant working wu

ah i see now

14:34

you need some tool from the depths of hel- i mean MDL

@Marda33 did you mean working windows update or just sha2?

Scamdisk

you need some tool from the depths of hel- i mean MDL

My dad left

haha funnie applegamer joke

But i made the joke first

14:35

14:36

ImSwordQueen

@docR

️

What's up?

Website was down

It's up here

It's up now

14:41

Probably cloudflare issue idk

It's been up and down since last night though. I think these shared servers are a bit feelscringeman

14:41

I contacted the hoster yesterday. They say it isn't being ddosd

14:48

Can you try posting there now?

14:48

Also

14:48

Attachment sizes are pretty small, you'll want to mirror it somewhere and give the link

14:49

Or even link from discord attachment

ye i was making the forum post rn

docR pinned a message to this channel. 03/03/2022 14:49

also fixing clevine2X not liking 32 bit apps

Scamdisk

no? i just slipstreamed the sha-2 update normally, but if you want updates, then yeah, you gotta patch shit

Yeah I meant the prequisite updates for the client patch including SHA-2

14:54

How would I integrate them to a multiple-SKU Vista ISO

you mount every sku and slipstream the updates manually with dism++

Also the SHA2+client patches also fixed the infinitely checking for updates issue too right

no

15:00

you need those updates too

Alright

19:12

i probably should redo the home premium business and enterprise ones

19:12

they look weird

19:12

also business

19:15

@docR how do they look in your opinion?

I think they look great

there's something off with the sku font idk if it's me

Ultimate is unchanged from the one you sent me earlier?

yea

ImSwordQueen

there's something off with the sku font idk if it's me

Well if there is, I fail to see it myself

i only made the other skus

19:18

it's mostly in the home premium one that i see it

19:19

if you say otherwise i'm almost ready to release it

I say go for it

19:20

finishing the thumbnail and releasing it

I really can't see it. In fact, I thought Home Premium looked great

welp. my eyes are broken i guess

Nah you're just very caught up in your project

ok the server ones are clearly somewhat broken

19:24

That original or your own?

the modified ones

Ahhhh

19:25

these ones don't look that changed

Best fix that up then. Need some help?

19:26

I can fill in that little crack there

should i make the orb for server gray?

19:26

i made it the vista orb because the original has the xp logo

19:26

I'd just use Vista orb

ImSwordQueen

i made it the vista orb because the original has the xp logo

Yeah I always did the same when I used 08 too

weird that the banner thing is broken

ImSwordQueen

i probably should redo the home premium business and enterprise ones

where starter hq branding 0/10

that's unchanged from server

Scamdisk

where starter hq branding 0/10

give me the branding then angris

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

and where web server angris

(edited)

those aren't extended kernel brandings angris

19:31

make web server with 2019-10 update x64 real (edited)

19:33

it's literally not there on the file via res hacker

19:33

what the

19:34

fuck you. i'm remaking it

19:36

IT'S SOMEHOW WORSE

Send it to me

19:38

I'll fix it

basebrd.dll

402.5 KB

19:38

i sent you datacenter but they'll be the same

Yeah just that small line bmp

19:39

Give me a moment I'll fix it up

yeye. take your time

this is starnge

19:50

i extracted the bmp in question

19:50

it looks perfectly fine

i somehow fixed it

I can't locate the cracks in it

19:50

oh. thats good

19:50

that was pretty strange there

welp time to finish the thumbnail for server too

alright

20:04

oh 256kb limit

20:07

made it

local mirror (outdated) (edited)

VistaBranding2X.zip

1.32 MB

20:16

forum post here: https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=67

Updated branding for Windows Vista

as title says. i made updated branding for windows vista x64 skus and "backported" windows 7's winver executable for the windows flag as the logo of i

docR pinned a message to this channel. 03/03/2022 20:29

@ImSwordQueen can you send based winver?

16:46

whatever tf I have has icon but is fucked

it's in the vistabranding2x zip

thanks bruh

16:48

this based

you can use those branding files in your usp3 mod

nice

16:50

this creates another challenge tho

16:50

making the installer detect the sku

16:50

win32 prob could find a way to do that tho

there's a registry thing that defines what sku it is

^

but can be easily spoofed

i mean why spoofing to get an another branding banner (edited)

idk, but well, can be used to get vistalizator to work on Server

why is that locked on server wtf lol

idfk

16:52

but it is

16:53

also brb gotta drop some brandings that should be necesary for server because there's more than just Standard, Datacenter and Enterprise that MS released

There are some API functions like GetSystemMetrics() that can pick up on SKUs as well.

great problem fixed

win32

There are some API functions like GetSystemMetrics() that can pick up on SKUs as well.

I think it's used by ShellAboutW (winver). (edited)

and there's Server 2008 skus that MS released that just use the standard branding

win32

I think it's used by ShellAboutW (winver). (edited)

on 10/11 i imagine

16:55

because it doesn't on 8.x and under

the Essential Business Server skus

just tested

16:57

6519 osk no work with win7 dui70.dll

f

ImSwordQueen

on 10/11 i imagine

*10 1607 and later

17:00

as 1511 and 1507 use the older basebrd system

true

smh MS released Server 2008 ServerWeb separate from the other 3 main skus

Ximonite

this based

ikr

17:06

Now we just need your based shell32 so we can install Vize lol

doc

17:06

it's already released

17:06

u idot

Xim said he'd send just the shell32, that installer is bugged he alleges

17:07

Tho I could just pluck shell32 from it

theselazypeoplesmhmyheadmyhead.7z

3.78 MB

thanks lol

docR

Tho I could just pluck shell32 from it

not an installer issue

17:09

a shell32 issue

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

vize-compatible shell32 exkern 2021.10

docR pinned a message to this channel. 04/03/2022 17:10

the file imsword sent doesn't have the issue but the one that got on yandex does (edited)

ahhhh

17:10

okay

17:10

so just use the file he sent?

ye

Ximonite

the file imsword sent doesn't have the issue but the one that got on yandex does (edited)

hold up

why not update the extended kernel installers to use the updated file then?

i used the yandex one

17:10

and it's the right one

does firefox work?

ye

17:11

actually

thats strange

wait

ok so that is a working shell32 (edited)

idk

17:11

i haven't test firefox

oh?

17:12

well i'm going to test this on my laptop

17:12

and install vize

️

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834213768086683660/939184354259783690/shell32.dll

17:12

this is the one that i'm sure it works

@docR

use that instead?

the zip one idk

17:12

yes

17:12

it's the 100% i'm sure it works

well okay

17:13

will the working shell32 be in kernel updates from here on?

17:13

no conflict with regards to updating it later?

yea

alrighty

17:13

may as well update the installers on websote to use it then lol

17:13

lemme try

honestly. we need an installer that detects what file are already changed and only update the new ones instead

no

17:14

I like how the current installer works tbh

so modded shell32s or ntskrnls don't get unmodded (edited)

wait a sec

MoreBranding.7z

361.42 KB

based installer behavior idea

got the other brandings idk

checks ~~hash~~ pe checksum of files and updates the file if different (edited)

17:16

that would work

Scamdisk

17:16

i don't want to upscale them

understandable

jk. i will do it later

17:17

i have to find what the fuck is going on with my clevine2X folder that has broken dlls that magically kills windows

there's like idk, 3 kinds of banners to upscale (edited)

really funny

shell32 works with firefox

17:18

k vize time

Scamdisk

there's like idk, 3 kinds of banners to upscale (edited)

it's not only the banner

17:18

it's shellbrd too

ofc

that's the thing i hate about server

me when mispell

vize is installing

17:19

if this doesn't implode, desktop is next lol

it shouldn't

17:20

i main it on my vista install

yeah I dont expect it to myself

i assure you that a Vista iso with usp3 will happen /s but still

its logging in

does storage skus even have x64 releases

its not tore up lol

17:21

this is safe

told you

@Ximonite it works, with vize. ya should update the website to use the updated file lol

ImSwordQueen

does storage skus even have x64 releases

yes

i'll put this shell32 and vize installer on forum

i hate this from server

because upscaling them ruins them somewhat

17:22

even the ones i included in the pack looks odd

17:25

i will only do web server and sbs

17:26

the others i will think about doing them

all the storage ones are the same (edited)

17:26

just the muis are different

17:27

should had only provided the dlls for one of them

huh they are

17:28

i thought they were different (edited)

same situation seems to apply to SBS even tho the iso i got only contains SBSStandard

17:30

also the SBS wim oddly contains some licensing shit for every single sku

17:30

every single server sku that is

17:30

but not all the sku files

17:31

dissapoint

hooray for me

17:31

i don't have to do the same change 195185 times

nah i didn't say about upscaling

17:31

i was saying in general arson terms

oh the sku files (edited)

17:31

call xinso

17:32

and ask him

17:32

for da files

vista is just dissapointing in this regard

17:32

and everything that isn't 7

an another vista dissapointment is this

because only in 7 MS left almost everything related to skus in the files

i don't fucking know where this is located

17:32

and there are 2 of them

and 8 up to 8102 eeap

8 is a dissapointment too

17:33

10 is the special kid

1511 and 1607 to be exact

17:33

builds of those that is

17:33

not the rtms

imagine instead of 1507

17:33

we got 1511 ltsb instead

17:33

imagine

that would had been way better

the most terrible 10 edition getting ltsb

but that would had drastically changed shit

17:34

because 1709 and 1909 would had been the other 2 ltsbs/ltscs

1909 ltsb

at least better than 2004 SP3 LTSC (edited)

17:35

/s but you get it

but 1709 ltsb would had been awesome

10 not existing would've been awesome too

so 8.2, 8.3 and so on so forth isn't it

yes

17:37

for real though

17:37

11 not existing was going to be better

Told you.

FE would had actually been 21H2 if it wasn't for 11

17:37

or 21H1 idk

fuck you 11

17:37

ruining everything

if it wasn't for 11, FE wouldnt had been Server only

actually

17:38

FE wasn't going to be even released

17:38

because cobalt

oh yeah right

17:38

also here's the big shocker

honestly

17:38

i wonder why they didn't base server on cobalt without the 11 shell

without 11, 10X wouldn't have had been cancelled

they literally could've

Server is usually in sync with changes in client

17:39

so it would had been 11 still

17:40

the only reason why they did FE is because they couldn't base it off of 19044

we lost you...

and cobalt was a no-no

cobalt 10

cobalt 10 was a mere decoy to hide 11

17:41

cobalt was always going to be 11

probably

17:41

wait

17:41

did cobalt always had the new icons?

21343 introduced them

17:41

to the public

so what if

but earlier builds with 11 shell would have had them

wait when did 10x get canned again

right when it was about to release

17:42

aka may last year (edited)

17:43

but seems like 10X did go over to cobalt before getting canned (edited)

17:44

also let's take this to #windows-10-11

yep

Scamdisk

because 1709 and 1909 would had been the other 2 ltsbs/ltscs

or rather 1809

17:58

but really why you bother making 1709 ltsc and 1909 ltsc

finishing installing vista on my laptop

holy shit snappy driver takes ages

i just found out snappy is totally useless

23:38

and does fucking nothing on vista

2

sometimes works sometimes doesnt

01:38

i have had it give me windows 7 drivers that dont work lol

ImSwordQueen

and does fucking nothing on vista

or worse yet, destroys it

How compatible is Vista on a UEFI Class 3 device?

#RadMorning

How compatible is Vista on a UEFI Class 3 device?

as much as windows 7 is

really?

yes

oooh

vista has uefi support since sp1

15:44

but both windows vista and 7 require csm for basic vga adapter, unless you use uefiseven or anything like that ofc

lets be fair legacy is the best

yeah

Has anyone got the Vista build 5112 wallpaper in FHD? (the main grass one)

20:25

#RadMorning

Has anyone got the Vista build 5112 wallpaper in FHD? (the main grass one)

Yeah, I think so

21:34

Give me a min

not quite fhd, but 1680x1050

23:49

Thanks!

yw

need an upscale?

desirable, yes

will do

#RadMorning

desirable, yes

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q2OJJ0f5ttHS-sYN1Kefhwspp47usfm4/view?usp=sharing

WideGrass-realesrgan-x4plus.png

16:30

forgor again

i forgor

fogor

16:31

remer

i forgot to reset the permission for explorer too

16:32

lol

ImSwordQueen

i forgor

Windows 8 (2006)

and windows 11

16:33

literally the taskbar context menu is gone

the what

16:34

what kind of abomination is this

this

no i mean

16:34

what the hell is wrong with the taskbar

basically

16:34

i forgor

16:34

to give explorer

and what kind of sick person uses classic theme

the users permission

absolutely unforgivable

so basically shit fucked

i see

skip

and what kind of sick person uses classic theme

i forgor to give permission to the themes as well

16:34

my b

16:35

if i run explorer as administrator then it would run

16:35

the start menu is cooked too

16:35

i made windows 11 when sysprepped trol

lmao

huh

16:36

it has the permission set

16:37

i got the wallpaper back and the start menu

16:37

so yeah. fucked permissions

how do you fuck the permissions so hard

MiniXP and teracopy

jesus

fucker removed the permissions when i copied the modded files in

lamo

never trust 5.1

16:39

good

16:39

with administrator it's almost a 100% working os

16:39

without administrator you are going to get the funny "everything broke"

16:40

this looks good

16:44

does someone know where are these located?

They should be in the msstyles

@RaduTek yep you are right

14:08

ty

do you might know where is the text color located at too? (edited)

i see something i made

15:05

wait is it even changed or am i imagining things

15:06

@Ximonite

15:06

oh it is

@win5270 Include this in the sp3 pack to fix the squares in calculator

seguisym.ttf

822.37 KB

ximonite is making the sp3 mod lol

Betajyst4094

@win5270 Include this in the sp3 pack to fix the squares in calculator

@Ximonite ^

I already put the segoe ui font files from rectify11 in

so guess the emoji shit is also there

Based

yea emojis be in there

00:01

no more squares ;P

does someone know how to fix the not centered X?

probably marda knows what's wrong with this

ImSwordQueen

does someone know how to fix the not centered X?

it should look like this

@Marda33

I’ll look at it if I can manage my Vista VM to work with Style Builder (edited)

04:21

I’ll need the msstyles again

Were the Aero borders-corners - caption buttons taken from another theme?

Marda33

I’ll need the msstyles again

@ImSwordQueen

I'll give you rn

Marda33

Were the Aero borders-corners - caption buttons taken from another theme?

also this

Marda33

Were the Aero borders-corners - caption buttons taken from another theme?

the theme is a different 5112 theme which i replaced some stuff from the old theme

10:40

So that might the cause

did the old one have the messed up corners too

I think i found the problem of the messed up corners

10:40

The reflection

10:41

I tried fixing it somewhat

10:42

also on the rectify discord they mentioned that it can be an atlasrect set incorrectly

10:42

still not great but eh

10:43

probably i'll copy the left reflection, invert it and try and see if it would make a difference

yeah the corner itself looks good now

10:44

I think the blue line of the top part and the right side corner are differently colored (edited)

10:45

looks like you also managed to center the X again

it's not the main button

10:45

it's the lone button that's off

10:45

hm

meanwhile here it looks fine

10:48

^ this is with the old theme

10:48

here's the unfinished msstyles

aero.msstyles

1.29 MB

Style Builder just crashes when I try to test

10:50

I'm using 1.5.6.3

10:50

everything is patched

on vista?

10:52

it happens for me too even with normal aero vista

10:52

idk why

10:53

(also it gave a DIP execution error after crashing so idk if it's an extended kernel thing)

there we go 1.5.0.0 works

10:54

let me see what's up

tysm

the more I look into this theme the sloppier it gets

11:44

managed to fix the close button but I still can't find where the corner garbage comes from

11:44

it's on on the top frame, not on the reflection

yeah. i only copied some stuff really sloppy

11:49

i was going to fix it after

I antialised the window corners and fixed the single close button, best I can do for now

11:52

The shadows look really choppy also

11:53

I’ll upload in a min

those were already from the theme itself

Yeah just letting you know either way

ye

what it looks like so far

11:55

those progress bars need fixing

no animation right?

11:56

or is it broken

here

aero.msstyles

1.47 MB

tysm

ImSwordQueen

or is it broken

the fill's a pixel off to the right on vertical ones

11:57

horizontals look fine

oh i see

the caption was also a content margin issue, was a quick fix

oh

also my antialiasing made garbage appear in inactive windows now

11:58

this base seems really messed up

probably i messed it up for sure

just put the window resources on top of RTM Aero and that made garbage appear as well

will do

let me try one more thing

ImSwordQueen

will do

no as in I just did

oh

12:01

lol

12:01

i misread sorry

12:02

i would've kept the previous theme but maximized windows don't have color

12:03

and weird quirks that only happens with it

12:05

tysm again

remade the top bar from scratch on top of the RTM one and it still shows garbage

12:16

what the hell

Marda33

what it looks like so far

what app is that control preview thing

12:16

saw it too many times

it's from Style Builder 1.5.0.0

https://vsthemes.org/en/cursors/50121-windows-11-concept-light.html

Windows 11 Concept Light

Windows 11 Concept Light - Download free cursors cur, ani #50121. Description: Default Windows 11 Cursor dark concept pack. This is a cursor inspired by the windows 11 interface, with the goal of integrating better into the system than the current default Windows cursor. 100%.

12:47

this site sells things you can download for free from the creator of the actual thing

12:47

https://www.deviantart.com/rosea92/art/Windows-11-Cursors-Concept-v2-886489356

Windows 11 Cursors Concept v2 by rosea92 on DeviantArt

https://ko-fi.com/s/d9f85e6821 the real ones

Windows 11 Cursors Concept HD v2 - Jepri Creations's Ko-fi Shop

Hello everyone, after much thought I have decided to upload a premium version where I have created cursors with higher resolution for those who with t...

12:48

if you have to buy them then buy the real thing

well it seems like the guy posted those on that site as well

12:48

but you have to get premium access to download

12:48

and I'm not sure how much of that premium revenue goes to creators

probably not

12:50

still when you can download the same thing for free from the creator's deviantart page what is the reason for this site's premium feature

you're paying 7$ when you are able to spend only 2$ on the high quality ones

12:51

also why are you talking about these in the vista channel?

oh thought I was on the #windows-10-11 channel

i'm happy with how it looks here

Marda33

what it looks like so far

are you doing a 52xx theme?

No

14:39

they helped me fixing one problem i had with my theme

^

14:44

If I were to I’d pick a less janky base anyway

14:44

Or try to port it from the OG first

ImSwordQueen

i'm happy with how it looks here

Yeah looking good

this is the OG theme. by athena

5112_theme.zip

2.12 MB

14:48

it's a different one from the one pinned apparently

athene's themes are pretty accurate

15:09

but i believe they have a lot of self made resources

15:09

so are they really accurate?

15:09

either way they're very well made

honestly. i don't know if 5112_Release is even release at all

15:10

because the one i linked has more stuff that matches 5112 more

15:11

but then it's calling itself b1

15:11

so it's confusing

15:12

like this pane is clearly wrong

15:13

meanwhile in b1 it's more "accurate"

15:14

it's weird

ImSwordQueen

honestly. i don't know if 5112_Release is even release at all

i have the full one

15:45

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V4TPcmRllrZQvg9L2PjORRF65KH-_pA6/view?usp=sharing

AthenRA-Release-5112.zip

15:45

is it the same one as yours?

Vruh 2

is it the same one as yours?

it's the same one as pinned so yeah

it is the release

ImSwordQueen

like this pane is clearly wrong

yeah the release-5112 uses this

it should be this

15:54

https://www.aitemulive.com/fr/?p=18

AtheneRa Blog

LONGHORN - Designs et Gadgets pour Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows 8 et Windows Blue.

15:54

we got in touch with athene a while back and they put the themes back online

maybe the theme itself doesn't contain the color

15:55

but they modified the shell32

Vruh 2

https://www.aitemulive.com/fr/?p=18

check it from this one

15:55

is it the same as yours

Vruh 2

we got in touch with athene a while back and they put the themes back online

Shame only the few vista themes got reuploaded (edited)

ok i found why

which were the ones we were looking for

they modified the shell32 for control panel

15:56

and used the theme for the other parts

15:56

it makes sense now

Vruh 2

which were the ones we were looking for

Yes. I'd love the 7 themes though

Are you modding the athenra 5112 theme?

athene

16:36

i also thought it was athenra lol

Athens

19:41

Athens Georgia

docR

Athens Georgia

or on greece

Marda33

it's from Style Builder 1.5.0.0

do you have a download that doesn't requite an activation key?

09:33

or you @ImSwordQueen

i have only 1.5.6.4

can you send it to me?

Pinned here and #os-mods

thanks

RaduTek

do you have a download that doesn't requite an activation key?

I can pack my copy up and DM it when I get access to my laptop

11:00

I got it off some weird malware sandbox site back in 2020 after thorough digging

@ImSwordQueen I think I finally figured out why the corners are messed up

what is it?

The Aero mask expects the windows to have 5px radius rounded corners so the edges crop off there (edited)

14:06

And because your theme uses 3px radius corners the mask’s cut off there therefore those parts aren’t blurred

14:06

It’s not an issue with the theme, it’s with DWM

so it's not possible to fix it

14:07

right?

Unless you modify the Aero mask somehow no

14:07

Can’t with the theme alone

welp. that's sad

You could put solid color pixels to mask that but that would just look bad

yeah i will keep it this way

get real

ah yes, reshax moment

11:53

all close buttons

i can't believe it's not maximize and minimize

i'm making sticky notes more inconsistent

11:55

The authentic Microsoft UX development experience

good ui

the thing it bothers me

12:08

is that they couldn't even remove the rounded corners from sticky notes

Didn’t they just slap that in from XP Tablet PC Edition (edited)

yeah

12:09

they did

12:09

all tablet stuff are from XP tablet pc

12:09

hell. here a mockup without the rounded corners (edited)

except for the tablet input panel

even inkball wasn't vista exclusive

12:11

still a good game

Scamdisk

except for the tablet input panel

its no longer always in the damn taskbar like on xp tpce

12:12

also i noticed it uses an another vista close button???

12:12

wtf

well i meant the button

also if only the 7 sticky notes worked on vista (edited)

12:13

did you try the 6801 one

12:14

or does that also not work

i didn't

12:16

also

6608's paint but better

658x_mspaint.zip

420 KB

20:47

obv works with vista

20:48

with 8.x and probably 7 results into this

ImSwordQueen

6608's paint but better

should i try it out?

on 8.1 is broken

20:49

it will display a broken save dialog (edited)

20:49

and you can't close it without taskmgr

ImSwordQueen

it will display a broken save dialog (edited)

what if you dont save?

you don't have an option

20:51

that's why it's listed in the #windows-vista channel

20:51

because i'm 100% sure that it works with vista

ImSwordQueen

6608's paint but better

whats so "better" about it

it's x64 instead of being x86

20:54

and it's the same as 6608's paint

20:54

just x64 based

ImSwordQueen

it's x64 instead of being x86

dont see the point

ImSwordQueen

6608's paint but better

What did you change? Is it x64?

docR

What did you change? Is it x64?

x64

That's awesome

20:55

Been looming for a x64 version

20:55

grabberslasher releasing 6568 to the public gave us goodies

20:56

also there's the ugly ass calculator

20:56

serbia's calculator (edited)

20:56

21:01

also his 6608's brother is different

21:01

so it's worse overall

ok the syswow64 version works 100%

ImSwordQueen

also his 6608's brother is different

I like it actually

04:02

The one on the left with antialiasing on the button's rounded corners looks pretty good actually

The antialiasing’s something I added in my transformation pack to the 6608 calculator (edited)

06:36

They were aliased by default

Yeah the 6608 one was from your pack

I think I also changed the button font slightly

ImSwordQueen

6608's paint but better

This could be useful for my pack

Do you need Calc as welp?

06:38

Well*

I could use x64 versions of both yes

Idk if the x64 version is broken on 7

06:41

On vista it works fine

Is the 6568 x64 ISO publicly avaible?

it's a vhd

06:41

But yeah

That can work too

06:41

Is it on archive.org

https://archive.org/details/6.1.6568.winmain.-080312-1858-amd-64fre-client-enterprise-retail-en-us

Windows 7 Build 6568 (x64) : Microsoft Corporation : Free Download,...

This is a pre-Milestone 2 Build of Windows 7.This was originally leaked as a VHD, however I've also made a dirty installable ISO based on Windows 7 Build...

06:42

Good enough to get paint and Calc

Alright thanks

Btw marda

06:43

is wmp11 from your pack any different from standard wmp11?

the nwclc in 6568 is slightly more broken than 6608, as you would expect

Scamdisk

the nwclc in 6568 is slightly more broken than 6608, as you would expect

At least paint works on vista

06:46

Sadly most builds of 7 are x86 so we have to use what we got

ofc, the only x64 early 7 builds we have are in the 65xx range anyway

Which one includes funny osk

06:49

And an another one funny paint and calc

ImSwordQueen

is wmp11 from your pack any different from standard wmp11?

It is, it’s the 6608 WMP which is like a hybrid between 11 and 12

If only it worked on vista

07:33

Speaking of how did you find the instructions RTF in the pack?

07:34

Tried to make is as compherensive and understandable as possible (edited)

i didn't follow them lol

.

i was already used with the vista transformation pack lol

It’s loaded with screenshots so it’s like 143MB

Ye i noticed

1/6th of the whole packs size

I installed the old 7 to Vista transformation pack a lot of times

I took that as a base for mine also

Yeah they were similar enough that winclient's tutorial worked with your pack also

spunchbob on vista omg

unknown.png

get real

17:39

ImSwordKing

spunchbob on vista omg

SpongeBob SquarePants: Employee of the Month is one of the games ever

18:41

for real

ImSwordKing

spunchbob on vista omg

quite smort to have such definitions embedded in a DLL rather than having some loose .XML file

it's for old games pre-2007

20:07

and pre-october 2006 sorta

ImSwordQueen

and pre-october 2006 sorta

and i say sorta because nfs carbon is included in the DLL even if that game came out in october 2006

ImSwordQueen

serbia's calculator (edited)

serbian calculator?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQYcrv0BXZM

Bitch Ass 12

Serbia Fish vs. Bosnia Fish

20:26

serbia calculator

we doing some exercises in sports class looking like fish on land on the verge of death

20:27

ImSwordQueen

6608's paint but better

ok this works with 7 too

19:13

not 8.1 though

19:15

and apparently 8.1 works too now

19:15

it just needs to be a folder called system32

nah

19:16

vista the best but app support is still pretty limited on exkernel

askers?

ImSwordQueen

with 8.x and probably 7 results into this

i was proving this point here

ImSwordQueen

i was proving this point here

toxic?

Deformisani SAS

vista the best but app support is still pretty limited on exkernel

Yeah, we need proper x86 program support and then it'll be perfect

i literally asked who asked

1

which a hvh guy would say

A what

ImSwordQueen

https://archive.org/details/6.1.6568.winmain.-080312-1858-amd-64fre-client-enterprise-retail-en-us

if you have the image handy still could you extract and pack up all I need to run Paint and Calculator? should just be their System32-SysWOW64 EXEs and MUIs

19:54

don't really have time to download the whole image

Marda33

if you have the image handy still could you extract and pack up all I need to run Paint and Calculator? should just be their System32-SysWOW64 EXEs and MUIs

do you want the modified one with the vize icons or the vanilla vanilla one?

19:59

for paint i mean

20:00

because i modified the exes to include these instead of the vanilla ones

20:01

here they are. they use the modded vize icons though

paint_and_calc_go_to_a_bar.zip

1.32 MB

20:06

here are the originals

Calculator_killed_Paint_and_got_charged_with_murder.zip

1.96 MB

whats with the zip names

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

whats with the zip names

idk

ImSwordQueen

here are the originals

You could say it was a calculated murder.

20:22

(Reddit tier humor, I know)

also a little thing i discovered in 6568.

Funfacts_about_britain._it_sucks_.zip

138.46 KB

20:23

it works with vista obv

based taskbar

based

docR pinned a message to this channel. 17/03/2022 05:00

ImSwordQueen

also a little thing i discovered in 6568.

it works in windows 10 lol

ImSwordKing

spunchbob on vista omg

ImSwordQueen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQYcrv0BXZM

but it is true, everyone here smokes

11:31

every minute

chrome: can play drm content, but cannot keep discord logged in firefox: can keep discord logged in but cannot play drm content

Firefox does play drm content, but it's suspectable to breakage

also streams are borked

15:50

what about on chrome side where discord wont stay signed in after closing of the browser

profile issue

15:53

most likely path issue

which path?

no it's vista that can't seem to see the path of the chrome profile

16:04

and other stuff as well

like how it cant even install extensions

16:18

same goes for 360 chrome x 21 (where i get the same error as normal chrome) (edited)

16:18

but on v13.x it can install extensions (and even it can stay signed in to discord whenever its closed) (edited)

16:21

pfffft

ye my suspicion is that there’s some piece of the profile that doesn’t get loaded cause of the path issue

17:01

most of the profile def gets loaded

mmm YES "Default locale is defined but default data couldnt be loaded"

17:09

same as normal chrome

Ximonite

ye my suspicion is that there’s some piece of the profile that doesn’t get loaded cause of the path issue

some programs have pathing issues too

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

but on v13.x it can install extensions (and even it can stay signed in to discord whenever its closed) (edited)

1. discord loading, meaning it kept me logged in to discord 2. an extension being installed (in this case, adguard)

ImSwordQueen

some programs have pathing issues too

yea I know

18:04

there definitely is a pathing issue

18:04

I just said it only slightly fucks up profile loading

18:04

not fully breaking it

Ximonite

most of the profile def gets loaded

^^ just not all of it

kafan's minibrowser also allows to install extensions if its running on vista (edited)

vanilla vista?

vista exkern

08:35

@Deleted User

oh yeha you can also use chromium on vista exkernel

08:35

that has no bing chilling spyware and shit

though you cannot install extensions here

08:49

btw basically i did change the url bar and the new tab page to use google since its an option

you can install on waterfox tho

08:53

and firefox

#savefjattar FOLLOW ABOUT ME

kafan's minibrowser also allows to install extensions if its running on vista (edited)

Yeah, it does

17:09

Use Humming Bird's mod, though. More secure that way. Scroll down a bit https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=74

360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version

360 Extreme Explorer Screenshot of the browser: (360 Extreme Explorer, Ver: 13.0.2250.0, "Chrome" Theme) Modified Version download links: v9 --> (U

looks good

18:35

thanks for sharing

@Ximonite sorry for pinging but can i ask a feature for usp3?

21:24

the feature is custom themes names

21:24

instead of windows aero and vista basic

21:24

vistadeskhack is seemly gone from everywhere and that only worked on RTM

21:24

high level of arson

@Scamdisk i've done it

Funny_Scamdisk_skus.zip

1.33 MB

13:55

took long enough

14:00

also fixed a thing with starter

14:01

straight disrespect.

knew that was gonna be what you fixed

i fucking hate it

14:01

holy shit

14:02

honestly i think i'm going to do the N skus next. and i'm going to be done

14:03

fuck K and KN releases

14:03

i'm not going to do those 2

even then, those aren't special

the banner changes

14:03

they are just the regular version with korean links

14:04

sooo

14:04

the fucking banner

14:04

Windows Vista Business K N

also iirc MS only released 2 N editions of Vista

14:05

Home Basic N and Business N

huh

14:05

i thought they made all skus into N

14:05

then i can do the KN ones too

#RadMorning

Windows Vista Business K N

which is in korea AND without WMP

fucker

14:26

it has the K in the non N variants too

14:26

it obv uses the basebrd mui method

14:31

wait

14:31

starter K exists too

14:31

lucky for you, Starter N doesn't exist

14:32

in Vista

unless....

14:32

unstaged

14:33

do NOT give me starter N branding

14:33

do NOT search for starter N branding

last time i checked there's no starter n branding in vista

14:33

ok good

14:33

probably it exists

14:33

because the other N skus

no it seemnly doesn't

14:34

even 6469 doesn't have startern

14:34

it has everything else in N

14:34

but no starter

14:34

weird

14:34

starter N exists in 7 right?

yes

14:34

final 7 yes

It just wasn't in consideration, likely oversight.

time to have fun

14:35

/s

14:36

ok apparently starter doesn't have korean at all

14:36

?

14:36

1 less to go

downloading en_windows_vista_n_sp2_x64_dvd_342268.iso to check if it's really only homebasicn and businessn

yeah

14:37

it's only basic and business

exactly what i was thinking

or in retail is

Doubt korea was even aware of such an edition by that time, vista is a whole fuckfest of editions that didn't get digested until a year or so passed.

6469 introduced everything else in N except starter

but the sku is in the korean iso

14:37

but doesn't have it translated

14:38

all shellbrd are the same so be gone useless work

looking for vista chk to check there as well

also the main basebrd is the same so i can copy the same dll from the main 2X package

Scamdisk

looking for vista chk to check there as well

not like imma give you em anyway

i was jk

14:40

honestly. if they are in the package. i need them

14:40

just for completeness sake

ok i will till one of those msdn repos come back online

14:41

because i can't find vista chk on IA

actually KN has both N and KN variants of the branding

14:43

i don't have to dump the N variants for those too

ok customizergod doesn't like mui editing

14:54

ImSwordQueen

high level of arson

winforms

️

Vruh 2

winforms

️

make an aero only window

15:37

ok the K and KN skus are done

15:37

time to do the N ones

15:37

and release it

ImSwordQueen

make an aero only window

a what

ImSwordQueen

high level of arson

this

15:51

dwm window

well i've kinda done that already

15:51

i can easily change this into being full glass

Yeah it's within your reach and already in the library.

i suppose this is what you want

yes

15:52

based

blank.exe

56 KB

15:53

net 4.7.2 though

15:53

i can compile it for 4.5

It would be even more better if you moved out of it altogether.

hell no this is wpf

Oh right.

it doesn't work on vista

15:54

jk it was just slow

it shouldn't work

15:54

compiled for 4.7.2

Maybe it's just small and managable enough to devolve into 4.5? (edited)

fuck i don't have the net 4.5 targeting pack

15:56

so i can't compile it for 4.5

15:56

but it is possible

15:56

maybe all the way down to 4.0

updated branding2X with more skus (edited)

VistaBranding2X.zip

4.08 MB

15:58

i will make a cleaner pack for the forum

ok so removing transcodedwallpaper temporarly fixes the black wallpaper part of the bug

Scamdisk

ok so removing transcodedwallpaper temporarly fixes the black wallpaper part of the bug

transcodedwallpaper?

15:59

ok it might be themeservice idk

also let's move in #windows-8 again

oh fuck

Vruh 2

but it is possible

Certainly is.

uwp winver but it's aero when trol

16:00

wpfwinver

there's one for mica

16:01

https://github.com/rounk-ctrl/Winver

GitHub - rounk-ctrl/Winver: Winver with mica.

Winver with mica. Contribute to rounk-ctrl/Winver development by creating an account on GitHub.

well yeah

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=67

Updated branding for Windows Vista and Server 2008

as title says. i made updated branding for windows vista x64 skus and "backported" windows 7's winver executable for the windows flag as the logo of i

16:39

Local mirror v2

VistaBranding2X.zip

3.13 MB

16:41

i need someone to pin this and unpin these two :

ImSwordKing

local mirror

Jump

Go to message!

VistaBranding2X.zip

Download

16:41

ImSwordKing

Ultimate only (seems obvious)

Jump

Go to message!

Branding.zip

Download

@Scamdisk can you do this for me?

Scamdisk pinned a message to this channel. 20/03/2022 16:42

ty

ImSwordQueen

updated branding2X with more skus (edited)

What skus were added?

docR pinned a message to this channel. 20/03/2022 16:45

docR

What skus were added?

starter

16:46

k variants

16:47

the released N variants

16:47

server skus

Ah, okay

who's the impostor (edited)

windows vista ultimate and server 2008 standard winver has "made by imswordking" on it

thank you captain obvious

17:44

man i just noticed that sbs and server storage logonUI branding files are so low quality even with the upscale

17:45

god

17:46

the vista ones are fine

17:46

and the other server 2008 look fine

Server has failed to server

18:08

:P

fr

22:03

you can't upgrade from 32 bit straight to 64 bit either

22:03

so what the fuck windows

22:07

meanwhile i was on retro system revival trying to find the 5.x os spoofer i found this

22:07

sounds too good to be true for vista

finally. it doesn't complain about being xp x64 anymore

Epic

14:08

longhorn momentr

ImSwordQueen

sounds too good to be true for vista

I’ve used this for driver porting before. It works

what drivers do work on it?

retrying. (edited)

ImSwordQueen

what drivers do work on it?

I used code from it to get windows 7’s storport on vista

17:52

ms generic nvme drivers should work on vista with it

(edited)

18:21

downgraded

found the thing. works with 6003 too. useful if you have a lot of themes (edited)

VistaDeskHack.zip

12.45 KB

21:17

going to test it rn

21:18

NVM IT WORKS

ImSwordQueen

found the thing. works with 6003 too. useful if you have a lot of themes (edited)

i need someone to pin this plz

What does it do

gives proper names to themes

21:25

so no more Windows Aero Windows Basic Windows Aero Windows Basic Windows Aero Windows Basic thing (edited)

Wow good stuff.

Betajyst4094 pinned a message to this channel. 21/03/2022 21:25

idk if it improves loading times of themes if you have multiple

21:25

but the theme switcher is still broken and selects the wrong theme as the selected one (edited)

21:26

so rip

ImSwordQueen

found the thing. works with 6003 too. useful if you have a lot of themes (edited)

so everything wont be "windows aero" anymore?

21:30

dude, well played

21:30

could you archive that to our forum too? ;p

21:31

@Ximonite yet another edition for SP3(tm)

great work

fantastic work

say... you want to try and probe the firefox speed bug on vista? the catch is you need internet faster than 120Mbps to actually notice a difference

i'm capped to 60-70 mb/s due to this bug, it doesn't impact upload though

basically, whenever newer builds of firefox via the extended kernel are running, the download speed is capped system-wide to 100 ish Mbps

its not slow, but its not utilizing the network to its fullest capacity

i didn't try enough to find it apparently

as soon as firefox is closed your normal speed resumes

despite having the hardware, and even the os to do so

because it was hosted on askvg

21:33

hm?

it took me long enough to find a working download link of it

its still hosted on askvg?

21:37

how should we mirror it?

i can just make an archive.org link

21:39

and link it on the forum

alright. sounds good

21:40

gonna be lit having a sp3 installer automate all of these tweaks and fixes one day

@docR

21:50

:)

nope i

on purpose in this case

21:52

deal

21:52

that emoji for me suggests masked discomfort,

is more obvious discomfort

no i'm just used to talking to people outside discord and using emojis like

22:10

to the point it feels strange to me having all these booom

emotes

22:10

but i do use a shit ton of stickers on telegram with m'lady

22:10

and gifs lol

22:10

lots of gifs and stickers

22:10

but very basic emotes

22:10

and the

one lol

22:11

footnote: this relates to windows vista because many of said chats take place on vista

docR

no i'm just used to talking to people outside discord and using emojis like

That doesn’t even have anything to do with discord, these are all Unicode emoji lol

ok apparently there were N editions of all skus but only for koreans

wait. isn't it possible to install the test certificates for the watermark on vista? (edited)

15:22

i tried importing them and the watermark didn't appear

nothing.

Did you try bcdedit /set testsigning on

oh i didn't

15:37

my b

15:39

ok this isn't the one

15:41

meant this one

isnt testroot.cer pinned in #windows-10-11

ImSwordQueen

ok this isn't the one

"test mode" text is everywhere

Scamdisk

isnt testroot.cer pinned in #windows-10-11

yeah

16:07

i imported that on vista

16:07

doesn't work on vista for some reason. idk why

did you import it into local machine/trusted root certification authorities

Scamdisk

did you import it into local machine/trusted root certification authorities

i can't even select local machine on vista import wizard

16:14

18:51

where's fucking oobe windows

18:51

windows?

vista moment

21:12

moment

remove

21:13

libraries

I don't use em, but they're still there hideen in the shell lol

21:14

8.1 doesn't show them by default trol

you are using the based This PC configuration

21:15

folders

21:15

drives

21:15

removable storage

21:15

Yes, it is rather based

21:16

ImSword, you seem pretty interested in 8.1

Libraries 7

21:16

i'm not wdym trol

Oh yeah, you're not interested in 8.1. you're interested in windows nt 6.3

21:17

and sometimes 6.2

21:17

or making 6.3 call itself 6.2

lmao

my old PC had that exact GPU

i have a 9800gt

skip

i have a 9800gt

swap the 8 and the 6, flip the 6. easy custom 9800 gt no scam

WinDVD

Click to see attachment 🖼️

(im assuming you still get the bsods)

arialgirl

(im assuming you still get the bsods)

i mean 1 hour and 25 minutes and no BSOD yet

intriguing

almost 2 hours uptime and we still chilling

so uefi with a good gpu doesn't make it crash?

well "good" being a 8600 gt which doesnt support uefi anyway

19:27

CSM is still on

obv with a supported gpu

i dont know why its not crashing

19:28

since afaik the bsod is related to USB drivers

so no RTX 3090 or whatever

i mean there was 30 series windows 7 drivers so

19:28

maybe one day

i think it has something to do with the nvidia gpu too @WinDVD

19:31

i noticed that when greenhillmaniac reported success with vista, he was using amd

maybe, since what i was rocking was a driverless rx480 lol

and youre using older nvidia

19:32

i assume a correlation here

arialgirl

and youre using older nvidia

tbf with late 2016 drivers

thats still older than what ive tested with

19:33

342 is older than 365 or 372

fair

19:33

still though, i had to move my main gpu to my second pcie slot for this lol

try and do things with it, like demanding tasks

well ive been using firefox with youtube music, youtube and discord open

19:34

what would be considered demanding

19:34

(that won't nuke the 2007 midrange gpu)

perform usb related transfers

19:35

maybe cpu intensive stuff

i have been using USB 3 since all my music is on my external drive

19:35

no problems there

19:35

full speed

19:35

i can run a cpu stress test

19:39

installed occt

good deal

running cpu test and no problems so far

uefi vista more stable than legacy vista?

19:41

that's impressive

then again this could just be one big fluke

ImSwordQueen

uefi vista more stable than legacy vista?

no idea honestly

we need an another ryzen user to confirm the theory i guess

i wonder if support for newer amd gpus can be engineered, given there are open source drivers available.

i don't think it might work

19:42

because different apis

19:42

also if somehow it works

19:42

you have to get it signed

19:42

and deal with no aero

this isnt pure uefi anyway, so if someone has a 980TI (or really any uefi compatible gpu) and ryzen please test uefiseven

vista extkern broke the signing

its still CSM with debugging mode

so that isnt an issue anymore

the no aero thing is an issue though

arialgirl

i wonder if support for newer amd gpus can be engineered, given there are open source drivers available.

maybe, though i dont know about directx if you went that route

also no directX- already got mentioned nvm

yeah

19:44

well i mean there are potential solutions like DXVK

well, there are also windows 7 drivers for these gpus, maybe if the kernel extension matures enough, these can be made to work on vista

it would take so long that's not feasible. (talking about the open sources drivers) (edited)

iirc r3dacted made a missing driver function list for amd drivers awhile ago 1 sec

19:46

AMD_16.7.1.txt

1.23 KB

19:47

this is for 16.7.1

19:47

oldest for RX 400 series

19:47

(afaik)

wait. for vista right?

19:47

and not 7

16.7.1 was a 7 driver, the list above is the missing functions even with exkernel

actually some of them might be implemented by now since the list is kinda old

19:48

05/16/2021

thankfully the graphics card market is fucked or unluckily lol . so rtx and vista users are a really small group still (edited)

the latest nvidia users get is crippled pascal cards lol

the 3090ti?

19:51

or you mean by drivers

and amd users get R 2XX and buggy R 3XX (via a driver mod) (edited)

ImSwordQueen

or you mean by drivers

i mean vista drivers

oh yeah lol

there are working pascal drivers but they are crippled in terms of performance

sadly it is what it is

yep

i will leave this pc on and see how it does

arialgirl

vista extkern broke the signing

~~how is that related to uefiseven?~~ nvm you were talking about the amd drivers (edited)

23:59

also

23:59

I'll test uefiseven just to see if it works at all

23:59

on skylake

11 hours uptime on my ryzen system

04:47

no bsod yet

windows visa

13 hours uptime, im gonna end the test here since using a GPU from 2007 is quite limiting lol

Now do haswell on 64 bit Vista troll

Let's not get carried away

Hold on let me install Vista on a skylake laptop- wait its in Ukraine

12:52

Haswell Vista truly is Ukraine in February

True

12:54

OK then 2k on that when I will be back in Ukraine troll

Godspeed, Sailor

well we can only hope your machines overthere won't be destroyed

docR

Haswell Vista truly is Ukraine in February

Me running vista on haswell

hmm how could i experience the haswell bugs without haswel- oh wait right running vista rtm

Vista RTM maining

docR

Godspeed, Sailor

Give him ukranian role

Ya you can do it I'm Ukrainian

uhhh. alright

19:09

so show of hands

19:09

who wants

role?

https://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/18176-vistaw2k8-x64-on-modern-hardware/

Vista/W2k8 x64 on Modern Hardware

Can you answer me the following questions: 1. It is possible to get rid of random BSODs when using Windows Vista on AMD Ryzen? 2. It is possible to fix Haswell+ issues on Windows Vista? 3. It is possible to install Windows Vista on UEFI-only PCs by using methods like VgaShim, UefiSeven, disabling...

20:00

May anyone try the acpi.sys mod here with build 6003 to see if it fixes haswell issues?

20:01

Don't forget to choose disable signature enforcement. You have to copy that file manually instead of putting it in install.win to make it work too? (edited)

Fixing acpi.sys isnt going to fix the inherent issue with Vista x64 and Haswell+ Intel platforms. The issue is drift caused by the clock circuits employed by Intel on those CPUs. AMD Ryzen BSODs primarily have to do with the USB3 controller and likely a conflict with nvidia drivers for newer GPUs.

WinDVD

11 hours uptime on my ryzen system

Jump

Go to message!

Older nvidia gpus like his, and AMD gpus dont seem to have the issue.

22:41

But AMD drivers for newer GPUs on vista arent really there right now.

22:41

and by older nvidia, he was using a 9000 series or something, from 2009

well tbf i got BSOD on my driverless RX480 but probably due to default display drivers being sus

arialgirl

Fixing acpi.sys isnt going to fix the inherent issue with Vista x64 and Haswell+ Intel platforms. The issue is drift caused by the clock circuits employed by Intel on those CPUs. AMD Ryzen BSODs primarily have to do with the USB3 controller and likely a conflict with nvidia drivers for newer GPUs.

Someone managed to make Vista work properly with this ACPI on 10th gen Intel CPU

06:21

and it seems to work without any issues, too!

Pics?

10:54

@RayZen link too while you’re at it?

RayZen

Someone managed to make Vista work properly with this ACPI on 10th gen Intel CPU

not surprised considering people got xp and even nt4 running on ryzen

@Unknown this guy on r/windowsxp server

10:56

Nvm

10:57

Anyways he made a few camera images I'll try to find it

Most importantly is it 32 or 64 bit vista?

64 bit considering he ran stuff that required Extended Kernel on his system

14:45

He doesn't have GPU drivers installed tho since he is using a Vega 64

Ah

arialgirl

But AMD drivers for newer GPUs on vista arent really there right now.

we can only hope one day we get support for newer gpu drivers

so because the kernel tears the f$ out of the escargot installer, i ran the msis manually out of the installer

20:21

program installs, ran the patcher after install

20:21

but i'm getting cannot sign in

20:21

and yeah, its a modernized account

20:23

@ImSwordQueen would you happen to know the best way to install it?

i stopped using escargot

20:23

but i remember that

20:23

you install all the msi files from the patched setup

20:24

patch it with the thing

20:24

and you log in

interesting, thats what i've done. i did install live 2011 movie maker to mess around with, though. there may be a conflict

20:24

there shouldn't be, but its possible

20:26

ahah

20:26

that was the culprit after all

Is there an up to date vista 32bit iso?

i'm running windows 11 on vista now

13:53

huh

what the fuci

athenera vs real 5231

23:16

what's the difference really

23:16

i think the 5231 ones are a bit more transparent

Athenera's are drawn on top of window, while the 5231 buttons have cut outs behind them (edited)

I may have found a better intel hd driver for vista

for which Intel HD models?

sandy and ivy bridge

Ximonite

I may have found a better intel hd driver for vista

Really?

yep

16:55

I’ll share it once I confirm it works properly

https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/u9i5zd/i_use_vista_as_my_daily_driver_on_a_ryzen_2nd_gen/

r/windows - I use Vista as my daily driver on a Ryzen 2nd Gen. Ask ...

0 votes and 4 comments so far on Reddit

Is that you?

Nope

Hi there! It's been a long time since I've posted here and I have a few questions (excuse the ping): 1) I've noticed an April 2022 build of the extended kernel has been floating around and found a Yandex link to it, but the extended kernel site still gives a MEGA link to the October 2021 version. Is the new one unstable/prototype, or was this simply an oversight? 2) There are mentions of a 32-bit extended kernel that I saw, which is new to me. Is this also part of the April build as a version of the kernel for 32-bit Vista? Are there any advantages/disadvantages to using it over the 64-bit version? Thanks in advance @win32 @Ximonite (edited)

SaS Gas

Hi there! It's been a long time since I've posted here and I have a few questions (excuse the ping): 1) I've noticed an April 2022 build of the extended kernel has been floating around and found a Yandex link to it, but the extended kernel site still gives a MEGA link to the October 2021 version. Is the new one unstable/prototype, or was this simply an oversight? 2) There are mentions of a 32-bit extended kernel that I saw, which is new to me. Is this also part of the April build as a version of the kernel for 32-bit Vista? Are there any advantages/disadvantages to using it over the 64-bit version? Thanks in advance @win32 @Ximonite (edited)

1: April 2022 build is unstable yeah 2: There is not a full release for 32bit, But there are some 32bit files extended for the 64bit version (not at the same level as the 64bit version though, less functions. and only exists for 32bit apps on 64bit.)

I have fixed a few functions and improved the version spoofer for a currently unreleased update. But I still need to do some more.

Ah okay. Thanks you two!

no fonts

Yeah. The RH installer is broken on vista

death

16:45

ok apparently the update issue was a thing on v102021 too

16:47

@Ximonite ok the dism++ issue is in v102021 too

16:47

and not only in the 2022 version

16:47

plus the update issue

it can still get updates still

17:05

just not the vista/ server 2008 ones

Anyone get CEMU working on Vista?

docR

Anyone get CEMU working on Vista?

i did awhile back in the vista exkernel server https://discord.com/channels/830214975922241556/933041397932621926/937538116850450462

03:01

iirc i did test a game and it worked

Thanks!

03:15

What did you do if I may ask? Did you modify the program in any way?

03:15

Is that an older build?

03:16

Oh I see now. You did some stuff in CFF Explorer

yeah

Can I get an invite?

E2

Can I get an invite?

I'll give you an invite

Thanks a lot

new (2016) intel hd graphics driver modded to work on vista

IntelHD_9.10.17.4459_Vista.7z

33.8 MB

15:49

supports sandy and ivy. haswell+ drivers need a bunch of ntoskrnl functions

docR pinned a message to this channel. 26/04/2022 17:13

That’s just the graphics driver

17:31

needs to be installed with device manager

17:32

I’ll get a full package going soon tm (edited)

17:32

with the installer and the other stuff

Question

20:47

Does that install the settings ui and such? Or do I only have that since I installed it over an existing driver install?

that installs the settings

Okay cool

02:08

So this new installer can be used standalone?

02:08

Rather device manager way

haswell XP drivers exist why did vista have to get the short end of the stick

02:16

sad i suppose

intel probably knew about drift

03:50

and how haswell behaved on vista

03:50

since well…

03:50

they created haswell

fair enough lol

04:20

but didnt vista get haswell chipset drivers? or am i dumb lol

I don't remember any official ones, but chipset drivers don't count. They only name devices and don't add any functionality.

well to be fair that isnt all they do

They really don't do very much aside from putting names to HWIDs. Not for the past 20 years anyway.

Ximonite

new (2016) intel hd graphics driver modded to work on vista

doesnt vista have ivy drivers?

yeah iirc but cant go wrong with newer drivers

yeah

especially when it comes to intel HD Lol

i guess these are made mostly for haswell but backwards compatible

thats my guess

07:40

who knows though

07:42

inf doesnt mention 4200/4400/4600

07:42

and 4000 is ivy

i noticed that vista creative drivers somehow make audio better than on 8.x or newer

i mean the only creative sound card i have is USB and doesnt work correctly with generic drivers lol

creative sound cards are the worst

11:25

they need their driver or else they sound like garbo

i mean they arent that bad

11:36

mine sounds fine but doesnt go to full volume without the driver

mine with the 8.x driver or without drivers it will do cracking sounds

11:37

updating windows vista in 2012 be like

with a sus google

really sus google

also discord trol

shhh

11:38

discord was invented in 2012

11:38

hey look a how much reverb do you want panel

11:40

got me one of these bad boys

aero in aero

oh god

11:40

vmware aero is really painful

also glass8 works on 10

11:40

but not on 12

11:40

scam

my 8600 GT renders aero better than vmware

11:41

like bruh

vmware 12 would make glass8 glitch out (edited)

11:41

meanwhile here it does not

also when i tried virt-manager with gpu passthrough, linux d i e d

11:42

so no cursed aero machine here

12 seems to be the beginning of fuckery

17:47

which is why I stick with 11

ImSwordQueen

updating windows vista in 2012 be like

yeah it changes color automatically if i go inactive

ImSwordQueen

updating windows vista in 2012 be like

in 2012 we had dark mode?

yes

18:31

there were dark mode themes

ah

@Ximonite how did you get workstation 11 working on vista

20:19

For me it won't boot with the workstation 11 drivers

did you follow the guide I made?

Probably i missed it

20:51

Can you link it?

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=59

How to properly install VMware Workstation 11 on Windows Vista

The latest version of VMware Workstation that officially supports Windows Vista is 10.0.7, but versions up to 12.0.0 work to some degree. This guide was made fo

Ty

And it remains vmware workstation 10.0.7 still whyyy

16:35

Ok found the problem

16:35

Somehow the exe wasnt getting replaced

very cool vista

Sus vista looking start menu

I don't know if anyone has noticed this before: There is a "portable" installer of bonafide Google Chrome 101 that works on the latest Extended Kernel with proper Widevine support. Is this a difference in the browser or an update to the kernel itself allowing for Widevine support?

Widevine has worked a bit here and there on Chromium for a long time.

win32

Widevine has worked a bit here and there on Chromium for a long time.

I see. This is the first time I had it working on Spotify with any Chromium browser (edited)

01:44

I hardly use Spotify anymore but it's a convenient test

01:45

But since Google Chrome works I'm now wondering about other browsers which I will try in my own tests

There were some random generic Chromium builds that had it working, including "Advanced Chrome", but I believe that one is dead now.

win32

There were some random generic Chromium builds that had it working, including "Advanced Chrome", but I believe that one is dead now.

I used to use that and it worked okay

01:47

But not with Widevine

Brave portable is fine with widevine, and can block ads without an extension. Portable Google Chrome builds have been successful in my testing too

02:10

Spotify is very.... Strange though

02:10

I struggle to get the web version working even on Windows 8.1

02:12

I've mostly gone back to using an offline music library since that drm bs really started to get under my skin. That and Spotify's changing the UI up every week to be more of a podcasting repository than a music discovering tool

And I can't use spotify anymore

SaS Gas

I don't know if anyone has noticed this before: There is a "portable" installer of bonafide Google Chrome 101 that works on the latest Extended Kernel with proper Widevine support. Is this a difference in the browser or an update to the kernel itself allowing for Widevine support?

you have some taste

hm yes

Who doesn't like Viktor Tsoi, honestly?

docR

I've mostly gone back to using an offline music library since that drm bs really started to get under my skin. That and Spotify's changing the UI up every week to be more of a podcasting repository than a music discovering tool

I don’t mind it tbh

12:40

I like how it can deliver really good audio quality while also using barely any bandwidth

12:40

and I don’t have weird issues with it

radu is watching

12:40

he will decimate us all for using spotify

Tank god I'm not using Spotify

that's true

20:06

longhorn is vista

20:06

vista is longhorn

20:06

they never scrapped longhorn

they did reset mid development though trol

They scrapped the UI

21:24

Not the idea trol

windows

day 661 of waiting for discord on vista

18:49

no

docR

Click to see attachment 🖼️

not vista

18:53

get real

day 1 of

cum

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

day 1 of

questioning myself why am i back

ImSwordQueen

not vista

Yes it is

20:36

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=74

360 Extreme Explorer Modified Version

360 Extreme Explorer Screenshot of the browser: (360 Extreme Explorer, Ver: 13.0.2250.0, "Chrome" Theme) Modified Version download links: v9 --> (U

20:36

use chrome portable for widevine content, though

oh

20:50

the buttons felt more like 8.1 lol

Deleted User

questioning myself why am i back

same

haha really funny firefox.

'Opening' 'You have chosen to open'... but 'Save File'

docR

use chrome portable for widevine content, though

chrome portable doesn't like to work with widevine content as much as brave portable does for me

18:50

obv the latest that can run on vista is the latest that can run on 7/8.x

18:50

disappointment

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

chrome portable doesn't like to work with widevine content as much as brave portable does for me

Depends on the version, and yeah Brave portable is better. It has an adblocker, which is important since you can't install extensions

ImSwordQueen

obv the latest that can run on vista is the latest that can run on 7/8.x

Dolphin as of around 2016 can open (not properly run every) every gamecube and wii rom, soooo.... We're in a good state there, being the last qt5 one we can use just came out

19:11

If Dolphin advances much in the next few years, maybe it can be recompiled in qt5. Or hell, 7 by that time will probably have a kernel of its own too

i wonder what changed with qt6

Neoncloud actually recompiled pcsx2 1.6 for XP, and it works well on Vista

i'm waiting for discord on vista and i will retry the 2 week maining vista thing i tried to do in 2020

19:13

i don't like not getting notifications

docR

Neoncloud actually recompiled pcsx2 1.6 for XP, and it works well on Vista

pcsx2

19:14

Yeah never got that to run well

i wonder if krita works on vista extended kernel (edited)

It does

19:16

Source: I have it

based

19:16

it works on 8.0 too

Extended kernel screws up opengl on the vanilla version

19:16

Good to know

based software

19:17

unlike fucking paint.net

I play PS2 games on my modded PS3, though

19:17

Paint.net is useless feelscringeman

19:17

And older versions are basically the same

19:17

It's a paint app lol

fun fact (edited)

The secrets of the universe won't be unlocked by using a newer version

i used paint.net for the ~~vista~~8 branding you are using on your 8.1 install

19:18

It's not a web browser or a web client where rendering compatibility will suffer, or grave insecurities will surface

docR

I play PS2 games on my modded PS3, though

Same

1

docR

The secrets of the universe won't be unlocked by using a newer version

the bs thing is that. they removed 8.0's support when they added the program into the ms store

1

19:19

it's pretty intentional

Gamecube is a toss for me. I play some in Dolphin, some on the homebrew Wii

ImSwordQueen

it's pretty intentional

i'm pretty sure microsoft was involved too

I hate paint.net

Obviously my fat PS3 is not PS2 compatible so I gotta use the PS2 classics emulator thing

Same

19:20

But I have a config database installed, so it automatically applies fixes wherever applicable

19:20

There's only a small handful of games that don't work well

i wanted to mod my ps4

19:20

Road Rage fmvs still fucked, but ehh, it's just fmvs

PS3 and Vita are

ImSwordQueen

i wanted to mod my ps4

PS4

Yeah, the ps2 experience won't be great

Scamdisk

Road Rage fmvs still fucked, but ehh, it's just fmvs

You tried the config database?

docR

You tried the config database?

Yeah, same thing

F

Scamdisk

PS4

Yeah, the ps2 experience won't be great

but wii on da ps4 doe

Might get a fat ps2 to mod and keep as second for games that no likey

The PS5 is in the process of getting hacked

i have a ps2 slim

Like I said, innevitable

it's fine because most of my collection has... scratched discs...

19:22

My GTA V disc for my PS3 is fucked

19:22

or the most interesting games i own have scratches

19:23

i got the trilogy collection (not the new one lol) brand new for 20€

19:23

literally a steal

Nice

19:24

get LCS and VCS for the complete Pentalogy

at gamestop too

19:24

i have vcs

19:24

Guess you're just missing LCS then

nah vcs isn't scratched

19:26

but it doesn't work anymore

19:26

probably data rot

19:26

i have both on psp

19:27

and i fucking disliked the ps2 version

19:27

so idc about not having that piece of garbo

Hm

19:27

Why so

it looked very off

19:28

probably i got too used by playing it on a small screen

19:28

talking about vcs. lcs had... interesting glitches

VCS is the only one of the pentalogy that hasn't been "remastered" on mobile

19:28

Due to iirc some issues

uhhh @docR

19:31

it opened anyway

ImSwordQueen

i wanted to mod my ps4

what sw is it on

9.03

21:47

it's hackable

21:47

iirc?

wasn't 9.00 the latest?

21:47

that was hackable

i think they figured 9.03

21:48

not sure though

i swear it was private

21:48

who knows

i'm still on 6.72 hehehe ha

og ps4 moment

not an og ps4 though

22:02

it's an uhh

22:03

CUH-1115A

22:03

it's a fat ps4 but it's not the og

22:03

and i just stopped playing right when 6.72 was latest

did you cfw it?

https://twitter.com/NTDEV_/status/1528066314547363843

NTDEV (@NTDEV_)

A really interesting read on an old Thurrott article. Apparently Windows Vista was to be named... Windows 7.

12:48

dang bruh alternate universe where windows 7 was the hated one trolla

Would be epic

12:59

And Vista was the beloved one

though by that logic all that would be different is the names

12:59

so vista would be 7 and 7 would be vista

Windows vista is 7

13:10

And windows 7 would be windows libraries

this works on vista. i didn't know that

Does it connect to anything tho

yep

17:01

connected to my vista machine just fine

17:01

i need to test the 8.1 version (edited)

17:01

that has the cool smart sizing thing

17:01

17:03

the 8.1 version is... disappointment

17:04

even the 8.0 version is disappointment

17:04

damn

17:11

for anyone caring. themed as the vista one. can't change the custom text sadly

7RemoteDesktopForVista.7z

2.49 MB

fix for the 8.x versions

api-ms-win-core-path-l1-1-0.7z

1.11 KB

17:32

and for the error that gives on 7 when you try to connect

17:36

the 8.1 version of remote desktop

The fact rdp isnt blocking itself in any way from working on older os

yeah that's surprising honestly

ImSwordQueen

that has the cool smart sizing thing

smart sizing does not work on vista

17:49

source: i use 8.1 rdc on vista

yeah i noticed

Could be patched to work, but ehh (edited)

fixed this stupid thing

18:47

18:48

literally it's the same size. but with more options

ImSwordQueen

for anyone caring. themed as the vista one. can't change the custom text sadly

oh interesting

19:04

didn't 7 mostly just change the ui though? vista's still gets security updates too

yesn't

19:04

it changed the ui yes

i've used both, i only noticed some different bmps and a slightly different bar in full screen

19:04

i like vista's for the bitmap ;p

but it got the RDP 8.0 and 8.1 updates as well

look

19:04

oh

meanwhile vista is stuck at 6.1

wait is that the vista version?

19:05

or a skinned version of 7's?

vista's

bringing 7's stuff on vista and vista's stuff on 7 trol

ImSwordQueen

bringing 7's stuff on vista and vista's stuff on 7 trol

no, i use 7's apps otherwise

19:07

they're better

it was a joke

but i did bring the ones 7 removed, yeah

19:07

;p

i only brought 7's wordpad on clevine meanwhile mspaint and calculator are from 66xx

19:08

vista's wordpad was a downgrade from xp's

it was?

yeah

19:09

apparently it was

what did they remove?

support for some file types iirc

maybe it was out of security concern?

probably

19:10

good and cool

19:10

except for the inactive titlebars even if the window is active

19:10

that's

based

19:10

no that's not based

19:11

because it removes the red from the close button on the normal vista theme

19:11

actually.

19:11

i wonder...

my vista

if 7601's ribbonui fixes this

docR

my vista

wait why is the text there now?

19:12

when before it was missing

fixed it a while ago

19:12

some mui stuff

docR

Click to see attachment 🖼️

...?

19:12

i'm talking about winver

7's apps, but with better icons lol

19:13

same ones i put in that forum post for vista

i know that

but this wordpad is more updated, i had to re-apply my res files

docR

my vista

but why is winver different in that screenshot from this one?

it is?

19:14

how?

19:14

oh

19:14

some apps do be like that

19:14

32-bit ones

19:14

they'll show that microsoft registered to

19:14

but

not that text. about the memory blah blah blah (edited)

oh FUCK

19:15

I forgot

19:15

lemme fix that now

ok 9600's uiribbon does not work on vista

19:15

:(

used wrong mui for 32-bit

but that's the fixed one.....

19:16

without the text looks cursed...

19:17

anyway. checking now if 7601's uiribbon does something on vista

19:17

or might be a disappointment like 9600's

ImSwordQueen

or might be a disappointment like 9600's

and it is a disappointment

19:18

thank you ribbonUI for being a disappointment

Destroy RibbonUI for not working in Vista

i don't even know if the ribbonUI in vista causes the glitches on wordpad and mspaint or not

19:19

that's the thing

19:19

Destroy everything that doesn't work on Veesta

i wonder if it's a manifest thing actually

19:21

WTF WINDOWS 7 IN MY WINDOWS VISTA 6002?!?!?!?!

19:21

I'M OUTRAGING RNNNNNNN

19:22

also compiled on 090909 lol (edited)

Ah yes, that one meme day

docR

vista's

massive trol trol

19:25

I hope you don't keep it that way if you actually use remote desktop tho

19:26

literally downgrading the client for a bitmap garmong

7601's rdp on vista

19:26

6002's rdp on 7

yes

i'm surprised it even works on vista tbf.

19:27

except for smart sizing. ty microsoft

can you send 8.1 rdp?

19:27

I wanna use it on 8.0

yeah sure hold up

19:28

btw xim. do you know what causes the windows in ribbonUI based apps to be inactive always?

nope

Does that happen on vanilla Vista?

if only the 7's wordpad worked on vista

19:29

so we don't know

Somebooody once told me that the 7 accessories (WordPad, paint, calculator, etc) only requires some Sql telemetry functions that Vista lacks

MS intentionally making shit not work on older OSes, then there's rdp

I also found them after a peek in CFF (edited)

E2

Somebooody once told me that the 7 accessories (WordPad, paint, calculator, etc) only requires some Sql telemetry functions that Vista lacks

yep

Those can be patched out, I assume?

literally telemetry is why they don't work on vista

19:31

ye

Telemetry

Yeah, that was funny

MS spying since 1999

we got no privacy

Doesn't start because the functionality to watch you is absent in the kernel

that's vista7 for you

Once the internet became a thing so did corporate and goverment desperation for spying

we are watching you...

️

Scamdisk

Once the internet became a thing so did corporate and goverment desperation for spying

fuck internet

19:32

fuck computers

19:33

fuck calculators

19:33

fuck electricity

19:33

fuck houses

wait

19:33

what

based

Then there's the tapping into phoneline thing

That derailed pretty quickly...

And most importantly

19:34

Fuck humanity

19:34

too much trolling

Trolling

19:35

We do a little bit of it

windows 2000 feature on vista

19:35

ty xp for cutting it. shit os

19:35

NT failure.1

2000 2000000000000000% goood os

20:20

i wonder if it's possible to bypass the eol message

20:25

powershell 7 does not work sadly

ImSwordQueen

i wonder if it's possible to bypass the eol message

Application verifier perhaps

Scamdisk

Once the internet became a thing so did corporate and goverment desperation for spying

I swear every "democracy" is slowly turning to totalitarism

joe biden

kinda obvious but. 7's defender works on vista too

08:43

or "works"

no jank?

service ??????????????? (edited)

ImSwordQueen

kinda obvious but. 7's defender works on vista too

at first I thought that was some rogue

10:59

watched rogueamp this morning

ImSwordQueen

service ??????????????? (edited)

Service [REDACTED]

Hah

does someone have offline language packs?

Actually, I might

17:01

https://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Vistalizator.shtml

Download Vistalizator 2.75

Download Vistalizator - Simple-to-configure program that helps you install language packs for Windows Vista and 7 even if you're not using the Ultimate version

This requires language packs @docR

17:14

updating vista

ImSwordQueen

This requires language packs @docR

i have offline langpacks somewhere, lemme look

SP2 language packs don't work on 6003

17:22

ty microsoft

wtf

17:23

really?

i only needed it to test the multi language support on notepadEX

17:23

and hey. it somewhat works

i have archived language packs somewhere on here

17:23

might be on my external drive

17:23

but 6003

"your language pack is for an older version of windows"

17:24

or smth like that

@docR

bruh

ImSwordQueen

does someone have offline language packs?

I have Russian

already tested it out

19:50

thanks anyway

I remember being able to install the enUS pack on my 6003 VM

09:53

Maybe it was before updating to 6003?

ImSwordQueen

updating vista

How’d you get Firefox to look like that

ImSwordQueen

updating vista

I wonder what is "WindowsSp..."

09:55

(Not pinging you cuz you might be mad at me)

Marda33

How’d you get Firefox to look like that

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=48

Aero CSS Themes for Firefox

The themes I share here are creaed for my own personal use and enjoyment. If you like what you see, feel free to help yourself to any of the themes shared! :smi

RostiTheGamer

I wonder what is "WindowsSp..."

windowspace

10:55

basically aero snap on vista

Oh okay

11:06

Got it

before tobin stick formatter was a thing, this existed https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2020/07/rufus-351433-for-vista.html

Tobin stick what?

that port of rufus 3.17 to vista (edited)

Who came up with that name

16:24

Pale moon reference?

yes

It's cool that rufus got a backport to vista though, didn't know of that

16:25

Where can I download it?

https://github.com/Betacyst/Tobin-Stick-Formatter 3.17 only

GitHub - Betacyst/Tobin-Stick-Formatter: Rufus builds optimized for...

Rufus builds optimized for NT 6. Contribute to Betacyst/Tobin-Stick-Formatter development by creating an account on GitHub.

16:27

@E2

Thanks

16:29

Don't have Vista on hand, but I guess it does work on it without any patching/ext. kernel? (edited)

E2

Don't have Vista on hand, but I guess it does work on it without any patching/ext. kernel? (edited)

yes?

huh tommorrow will be 6003's birthday

17:07

or 6003.20555's birthday

ninite works for apps that still support vista (on extended kernel with osver.ini) (edited)

17:23

damn

17:28

well. this wasn't a complete disaster

17:28

it installed 3 applications that can run

17:28

installed 2 that might work with some tweaking

17:28

skype says it installed but it's lying

17:35

it isn't the best of installing apps on vista but it somewhat works

ImSwordQueen

skype says it installed but it's lying

ah yes, ninite, the liar

Screenshot from RP era

17:40

This is a good tool though

E2

Who came up with that name

I dared Betajyst to call it that, and he did

18:26

out of patronage i use it on all versions of windows

18:26

I usually just refer to it as the Stick Formatter

Oh, that's the same person, I assumed that was someone with a similar name

rolls off the tongue better than rufus

E2

Oh, that's the same person, I assumed that was someone with a similar name

He said he is leaving the community, today

Beta?

Yeah, in lounge

Thats a darn shame

18:29

I'll continue supporting his projects

If he's fine with it, I can pick up the development later

its licensed under the GNU license https://github.com/Betacyst/Tobin-Stick-Formatter/blob/main/LICENSE

Tobin-Stick-Formatter/LICENSE at main · Betacyst/Tobin-Stick-Format...

Rufus builds optimized for NT 6. Contribute to Betacyst/Tobin-Stick-Formatter development by creating an account on GitHub.

18:36

I think that should be fine

Rufus itself was GPL licensed so

could you accept my fr? wanted to dm something

Fair then, I will pick up the torch. I need to ask some questions about headers though, he isn't responding :/

docR

could you accept my fr? wanted to dm something

Sure thing

barisberat

before tobin stick formatter was a thing, this existed https://retrosystemsrevival.blogspot.com/2020/07/rufus-351433-for-vista.html

meanwhile in july 2020:

server 2008 is replacing xp on the lenovo pc!!!

Is anyone here able to test if HAL.dll from KB4489880 (6.0.6002.24564/24565) is more buggy than 6003.20555 HAL?

04:35

I need to make sure that it is indeed HAL from 6003 that introduced the partial bug fix

Yeah, it might actually be that it's not 6003 that introduced new HAL

04:59

Comparing 6002.24565 and 6003 in IDA seems to only show directory related changes (edited)

05:05

05:07

If that's the case, I'll also have to find out which build is the first one, unless they did it one byte at a time with each KB

how did i make 2 basic themes

18:45

what

18:45

WHAT

ImSwordQueen

how did i make 2 basic themes

ah yes, aero, basic, and basic

(edited)

20:22

is there a version of the extended kernel later than the one on the ximonite.com website

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

That is super cool

20:30

So minor yet so nice lol

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

is there a version of the extended kernel later than the one on the ximonite.com website

there's xx022022

is there a copy here

https://mega.nz/folder/hg0GGKgA#5pCcqU6aQq_66PURkTkEUw/file/swlnVCgT

146.5 MB folder on MEGA

42 files and 3 subfolders

swag

20:31

thanks

it only changes shell32

20:31

to allow resources to be modified

20:31

so vize works on it

just want the latest version for this pc since it's starting fresh

it should be fine

any tips for enabling desktop experience on server 2008 but i can't select aero theme or is it only because i haven't installed gpu drivers yet

docR

So minor yet so nice lol

i'm cleaning the clevine theme a little bit by removing unused stuff. replacing some stuff that i don't like about the theme

20:32

and make it cleaner overall

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

any tips for enabling desktop experience on server 2008 but i can't select aero theme or is it only because i haven't installed gpu drivers yet

you aren't on 8.x you dummy

20:33

you need gpu drivers for aero (edited)

damn

basic should appear though

no basic

20:33

only windows standard and classic (edited)

then you forgot to enable the desktop experience

no i enabled it last night

check it again

20:34

you probably didn't

20:34

actually

20:34

check

20:34

in services.msc

20:34

if the themes service is on

will do

i forgor

20:35

that pre server 2012 has themes disabled

20:35

but yeah. aero still needs gpu drivers

20:36

eyyyy. 1.2k views

20:36

poggers

20:36

anyway https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=41 @Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

Server 2008 To Workstation/Vista Conversion Pack

This has been sitting on my hard drive for years. Most of what's been collected here comes from the brilliant people behind windowsworkstation.com. Contained is

sweet

best and best

My forum being used

(edited)

21:38

copied all the api ms dlls it asked for from my 7 install

was your server 2008 up to date with the vista updates as well?

21:39

about the dx11 ones

only installed the one needed for extkern

21:40

otherwise base sp2

yeah install the uhhh

21:42

platform updates and supplements

fuck

21:43

which 1s are thos

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

21:44

these (edited)

based

21:51

tyhanks

pinky fucking made all dpi versions of the buttons

22:00

installed updates

22:06

all succeed

22:06

still error

22:06

what do

reinstall the extended kernel?

22:07

wait

22:07

check if dx11 is installed

says ddi ver 10 in dxdiag

22:07

does fifox req dx11??

it requires the dx11 update

22:07

wait

22:07

let me find the archive

one of the kbs was vista only noy 2k8 so it woildnt let me install

https://archive.org/details/kb971644

Windows Platform Update for Windows Vista (KB971644) : Microsoft : ...

When I tried to install Windows Live Essentials 2011 on Windows Vista I had a problem, I had to install the update KB971644 before installing Windows Live...

22:09

it wasn't in that list for some reason

o

hold up

22:10

let me check if the updates inside of these were those ones

22:10

or not

i alreadygot the 4 updates thatthe iso has

yeah

22:10

weird

one of the 4 is vista exclusive

i would try reinstall the extended kernel then (edited)

wont run on 2k8

idk about server 2008 exclusive stuff

22:11

tells you incompat if you try to install it

yeah.... idk

22:11

if i was maining server 2008 i could've told you precisely what updates you needed

22:12

but i don't know really

lord @docR please be upon us

your best bet is to reinstall the extended kernel. or try updating your install

22:12

server 2008 still gets updates so that shouldn't be hard

whatrs the trick to getting updates on it

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-to-add-sha-2-code-signing-support-for-windows-server-2008-sp2-f120e4d0-da06-6860-3610-59c5cd0b7cd2

swag

KB4493730

22:15

honestly. this sounds complicated af

downloaded x64 and neither said they applied

22:16

wtf

22:17

only did 2k8 cuz it was already on my 4gb usb and it fit under 4gb but i might do vista to make life easier

oh

22:17

i see

22:17

did you install the extended kernel

22:17

right

22:17

you need dism++ (without scrolling because that crashes it)

22:17

to apply them

22:17

because the extended kernel

wtf

will kill wusa

22:17

that happens on vista

cringe but understandable

22:18

will do later

looks clean

is there a modded copy of vista that can fit in under 4gb installation media

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

is there a modded copy of vista that can fit in under 4gb installation media

x86 vista ez trol

jk6tru79m 876 vftr 97 8907 bv6t567v bm0976 87io 987y vgtfreedc gthnu

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

is there a modded copy of vista that can fit in under 4gb installation media

what about n edition of vista?

11:50

official shit

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

is there a modded copy of vista that can fit in under 4gb installation media

12:02

normal vista trol

ImSwordQueen

normal vista trol

yes but some 4gb usb is scuffed so they only have like 3.2gb trol

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

jk6tru79m 876 vftr 97 8907 bv6t567v bm0976 87io 987y vgtfreedc gthnu

freedom has a stroke this hard

yay

you need a specific version from 2013 that still works and connects

use mal ware bites !

that is so true !

use nava shield

17:08

I am a robot from outer space

insert laughing sounds

RostiTheGamer

insert laughing sounds

I should offms

the specs

gaming pc specs

https://eclectic4un.me/using-windows-vista-in-2022-an-introspective/

Ryan

Using Windows Vista in 2022: An Introspective - Eclectic4UnMe

Let’s begin by revisiting August of 1995. When Windows 95 was introduced, Microsoft set the stage for multitasked computing as we know it. Sure, some will argue its design principles were not unique to Redmond, but Microsoft’s initiative helped to … Continue reading →

rendering the article in ie7 in a vm of vista with just vanilla sp2 lol

docR

https://eclectic4un.me/using-windows-vista-in-2022-an-introspective/

Was a nice pleasing experience reading thru this. Good job!

You're an awfully fast reader lol

23:40

But thank you. Glad you liked it ^^

docR

rendering the article in ie7 in a vm of vista with just vanilla sp2 lol

ie7 looks so weird to me without the xp styling

18:26

i never used it on vista or 7

it only existed on xp or vista

Vruh 2

it only existed on xp or vista

ie8 looks the same though

22:03

i meant ie7/ie8

ie7 has slightly different aero tabs iirc

and diff favorites location

skip

ie7 has slightly different aero tabs iirc

which look nicer than IE8's tabs

https://www.reddit.com/r/windows7/comments/vir9an/vista_startup_orb_in_windows_7/ Vista's authui and logonui has been ported to 7 That makes the startup orb a thing now

wHAT

21:33

WHAT ReaL

21:33

REAL

21:33

REAL

21:33

THE BEST PART OF VISTA HAS BEEN PORTED TO WINDOWS 7

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

THE BEST PART OF VISTA HAS BEEN PORTED TO WINDOWS 7

YES

E2

https://www.reddit.com/r/windows7/comments/vir9an/vista_startup_orb_in_windows_7/ Vista's authui and logonui has been ported to 7 That makes the startup orb a thing now

8.1s authui was ported to 7.

17:09

And vistas to 7

8.1s authui was ported to 7.

@Deformisani SAS What does that look like

17:35

In 7

Kinda 8

19:11

Ill show it when i get home

19:11

Its not perfect as most 8.1 logon screen features are not present in 7. Like the spinning dots. It wouldnt make sense to use the regular spinning wheel for that

19:12

If anyone wants ill share the dlls.

Do share if you can

I will. Actually anydesk is running ong my pc so i guess ill upload them on mediafire

Any images?

https://www.mediafire.com/file/rydi1idy2v3335t/8.1_authui.zip/file

8.1 authui

19:20

also has some text sliding with please wait and welcome

@E2

pics?

Wait

10:23

Let me find the post i made in action retro

10:25

I had a theme replace the logon background but heres ctrl alt del menu

10:25

Its not perfect but it gets the job done

man i wish microsoft used 7777's ie9 new page UI as rtm

22:27

looks a lot better than RTM

damn this looks way different

@docR

You modified your wmc theme to look more like xp's?

Yes

14:39

I mean

Pretty spiffy

Dominic did it

Wasn't there a portable xp wmc for vista/7?

14:40

I thought I saw it once, but could never find it again

‍♂️

ik someone did get xp wmc to work on newer oses

i know shorthorn has a version of wmc of vista

14:40

but well

14:40

that does not work well

14:40

also here with aero

14:41

looks nice

lemme guess one of them is 5219

i believe so

Btw scamdisk.... Any idea how to make wmc not shit the bed when opening a media library after installing your wmp11 patch (library libraries

jokes aside win7

)

probably limitation of wmp 11

14:42

that wmc from 7 and 8.x can't do anything about (edited)

Not necessarily. I used to manually install wmp11 on 7 (gruesome process I might add)

14:43

And this never happened

14:43

But it had some file association issues

14:44

And the process of doing it will anger you so badly you'll end up removing wmp outright out of rage and throw a shoe whenever you see it lol

hm weird

14:44

nuke wmc entirely trol

14:44

problem fixed trol

14:45

this UI looks relaxing for some reason

when the "unpolished" ui somehow looks better than the final

hm yes. good job bing

Dominic did it

@ImSwordQueen I one tried doing that to WMC 7 once

more like, I did both of dem. (edited)

16:24

nice 5231-ish wmp

kinda incomplete rn though - still gotta finish off some of the buttons on both of them (play/pause and back on WMC, misc. playback on WMP) (edited)

now i dare you run the actual thing

16:25

you can't

i mean yeah

16:26

Vista Beta 2's WMC has a timebomb in it

RIP

i meant wmp

16:27

not wmc

use this in Clevine @ImSwordQueen trol

https://www.designyourway.net/diverse/vistastyles/ShineVS_by_patrickgs.jpg

lmao

too shiny

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

more like, I did both of dem. (edited)

edge on windows vista

vista fanboy kids trol

BLACK TEXT!!!!!1111

yes upgrade stupid

17:32

it's not like vista can't have IE10 or anything

ImSwordQueen

it's not like vista can't have IE10 or anything

they probably intended to make IE10 for Vista at first

01:20

Y'all who make Vista packs can finally quit using Windows 7 Beta icons...

01:20

because, ya boi...

01:21

has uncovered scrapped Libraries icons for Vista, from 5270:

01:21

enjoy them, I guess. (edited)

IconGroup75.ico

176.42 KB

IconGroup76.ico

155.61 KB

IconGroup77.ico

135.72 KB

No.. Not Libraries....

3

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

enjoy them, I guess. (edited)

I remember seeing these in 5259 a looong time ago

anyone know how to get pass windows setup could not configure windows to run on this computer's hardware screen

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

anyone know how to get pass windows setup could not configure windows to run on this computer's hardware screen

show me a photo

specs

22:55

+ tell me what iso you're using and what medium you're installing it with

22:55

i will get back to you in approximately 3 hours

Intel Core i5-3210m Nvidia Geforce GT 630M 8GB Ram (7.89GB usable.) I'm using an official windows vista sp2 iso w/ all versions except enterprise but i did get this error on the extended kernel one to

usb install?

yes

usb 2 or usb 3

22:59

https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-gu/000130942/windows-setup-could-not-configure-to-run-on-this-computer-s-hardware-error-during-windows-7-or-windows-10-installation i did this and it worked on vista but the install was busted due to other reasons

looks to be usb 2

23:00

i tried that but it just restarts when i close the window

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

Click to see attachment 🖼️

are you awake

05:22

i had this problem on my laptop i think

05:22

i remember the issue

05:22

set your bios disk controller mode to ide or ahci or something

05:22

NOT raid

05:22

raid breaks it

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

are you awake

I am now.

10:49

I don't think my controller is raid but ill check

You were right, it is raid

now my problem is trying to find the right pre-os raid driver

you can just set the bios to AHCI or maybe even IDE

I can't

14:08

the option isn't even there

14:09

I can do that on my hp desktop but not my laptop for some reason

Strange...

https://www.reddit.com/r/windows/comments/w2nimo/found_this_in_my_uni_library_published_by/

r/windows - Found this in my uni library, published by Microsoft

188 votes and 28 comments so far on Reddit

16:08

good comments about Vista on r/windows?!?!?! unbelievable!!

Ximonite

new (2016) intel hd graphics driver modded to work on vista

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County did these drivers work for you first try

WinDVD

yeah iirc but cant go wrong with newer drivers

you know where hd 4000 graphics drivers at at

21:10

for vista

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County did these drivers work for you first try

?

21:31

i never used an igpu with vista

21:31

except one time i used an amd igpu from 2009 with it

21:31

worked fine but it was made for vista

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

you know where hd 4000 graphics drivers at at

I know they exist gimme a sec

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

you know where hd 4000 graphics drivers at at

64Bit HD 4000 drivers http://web.archive.org/web/20180202165350/https://downloadmirror.intel.com/20758/a08/GFX_Win7_64_8.15.10.2761.exe

21:41

Says 7 but works on vista

how can i get open.spotify.com work in fierfox 88 in windows vista x64 bit extended kerlnal? (edited)

in english please

it is but i have bad spelling

whats not clear

22:40

hes tryna get the spotify web player working on vista exkernel

how i did it: chrome portable x64 (https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/google-chrome-portable-64)

Google Chrome Portable 64-bit Stable (Test) (web browser) | Portabl...

22:42

firefox requires the widevine drm stuff which i never got to work right

22:42

i use firefox for everything except netflix and spotify

22:42

on vista atleast

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

how i did it: chrome portable x64 (https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/google-chrome-portable-64)

but i have fierfox 88 bekuse i whant discord vc support

use firefox for discord and chrome for spotify

hmm

personally i use ripcord for discord on vista

okay

22:43

let me try tomro going to slep now (edited)

Hi a question is it posebole to get vista working on a 5gen intel core i5? (My laptop is a hp elitebook 840 g2

You'll have essentially no drivers, and 5th gen is perhaps the worse generation to be affected by the drift issues

13:06

So the short answer, no. The longer answer, kind of

Ooo......

docR

You'll have essentially no drivers, and 5th gen is perhaps the worse generation to be affected by the drift issues

wait fr? i thought drift stayed the same for 4th gen outwards

This is sad i got it booting but no driver

yeah but don't run vista on anything after ivy bridge

20:22

you will most likely not find any drivers for the system and if you do it will be mad unstable

Cant you mod then?

and drift as win6101 said, and corruption if not on 60003

20:22

*6003

The Cubis

This is sad i got it booting but no driver

5th gen?????????

20:22

DRIFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

20:22

STOP THIS NOW

Why

i'd just run windows 7

this is a terrible idea

the cubis if you wanna know what skip is talking about keep rebooting

anything haswell and later makes vista completely shit itself

20:23

do not even attempt it

you'll figure out what he's talking about soon enough

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

the cubis if you wanna know what skip is talking about keep rebooting

It dosent

skip is lying. it's totally fine

20:24

it will continue booting

20:24

meanwhile saul goodman is right

I think the oldest 5th gen can go is windows 7

20:24

without it shitting itself

it's 2000 really

Damn (it is midifyed win7 drivers) (edited)

you can't even boot into xp and older

20:25

due to missing something i forgot what it is tho

You can run 2000 and XP on Alder Lake, but you will usually not be able to use ACPI.

The Cubis

Damn (it is midifyed win7 drivers) (edited)

if you want internet you can use usb tethering with your phone

iirc i believe someone i think ximonite got 2000 working on newer hardware

but that's the best you can do

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

if you want internet you can use usb tethering with your phone

I know

And the ACPI HALs are needed for hyper threading and basic support for Enhanced Intel SpeedStep (allows your CPU to idle properly)

if you're lucky maybe xim's modded drivers will work for graphics

20:26

but thats it

Did not work

win32

And the ACPI HALs are needed for hyper threading and basic support for Enhanced Intel SpeedStep (allows your CPU to idle properly)

yeah but I don't think its even worth running xp and older after 4th gen intel

20:27

it'll just be a hassle and for what? bare bones xp with no drivers?

Realtek never changed their onboard audio, so it works on a lot of recent boards.

Can i make windows 7 Explorer lock exactly like Vista Explorer??

not exactly

There are also universal USB3 drivers for 2000 and XP.

but itll look pretty convincing

win32

Realtek never changed their onboard audio, so it works on a lot of recent boards.

audio and usb is it I think

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

not exactly

Damn it

def not graphics

20:28

probably not internet

20:28

but then again, usb tethering

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

audio and usb is it I think

Maybe some onboard network things too, as this HP z600 from 2010 has NT4/9x/DOS support for its NIC iirc. But no onboard graphics ofc

@Abu Faraj al-Libbi

intel dropped support for vista in 4th gen and afterwards so no internet drivers from intel

And I have a amd r7 260m tooo (edited)

idk about amd support

20:30

im not about that life

Then I dont have laptop for vista pepe_sad

if you really want a vista laptop get somthing around late 2012 and early 2013

20:32

that's just before vista becomes obsolete

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

if you really want a vista laptop get somthing around late 2012 and early 2013

Only if I whas older tho

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

wait fr? i thought drift stayed the same for 4th gen outwards

anecdotally, some members here report the corruption on 6002 happens much quicker in relation to other platforms. to the point of corrupting before first boot

20:33

but that could be other factors, not enough testing

It booted fine for me on sp1 to

regardless drift will add needless stress to your life, use 3rd gen or use 7/8.x on those platforms for now

wait actually now that you do mention it I do remember haswell drift and corruption being only somewhat bad and broadwell and after being really bad

docR

regardless drift will add needless stress to your life, use 3rd gen or use 7/8.x on those platforms for now

whats your cpu

i main'd drifting vista on 4th gen. both 6002 and 6003. 6002 will axe itself, 6003 will just be the walking dead lol

20:34

now? i have a 3rd gen xeon 2667 v2

i think 6002 took some time to corrupt on haswell right

20:34

like a year

yeah

20:35

on my 4790k with 6002 it progressively deteroriated

20:35

services would perm stop working, then cleartype fonts broke

does it corrupt after every boot or does it do it in real time

eventually it would just boot infinitely and show the green bar

20:36

it took months so i cant say for sure

20:36

i used 6003 on a haswell 1650 v3 for a time. no corruption, but rebooting is a game of russian roulette

20:36

and some features are still broken

docR

services would perm stop working, then cleartype fonts broke

so if the audio service axed itself

is it called drift because it slowly drifts away from its working state?

you would've being maining a silent machine

its overall just not a good experience at all

@docR can I replace windows 7 explorer with Windows vista explorer?

skip

is it called drift because it slowly drifts away from its working state?

nah

i couldnn't possibly recommend using it

it's what drift correction windows 7 called it

The Cubis

@docR can I replace windows 7 explorer with Windows vista explorer?

no

The Cubis

@docR can I replace windows 7 explorer with Windows vista explorer?

technically yes but it'll be unusable

no vista's one doesn't work

you can make 7 very similar to vista, but outright popping in vista's explorer will give you a.... interesting experience

20:38

here:

it was xp's that "worked"

docR

here:

????

closest you'll reasonably achieve, until win32 can one day, hopefully address the drift issues head on https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=56

Windows 7 to Vista Transformation Pack - Complete Archive .7z

7zip (needed to extract the file): MEGA Archive: https://mega.nz/file/gvAUkJwD#UEHUWsUOMLk-Q6UoMuPXAbZEayt22DMcO-hWcDKkGPs Quick Launch path: %Appdata%\Microsof

20:39

I helped to make this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhOXi_zcmYs

WinClient5270

Windows 7 to Vista COMPLETE Transformation Pack: 2021 update! (ft. ...

win32 is getting pretty close

20:39

and he already found reduced it by quite a bit

he has others matters to address now

is it another vista problem

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

and he already found reduced it by quite a bit

its a bandage, and by no means advisable in that state

he's fixing chromium forgorring

yes

docR

closest you'll reasonably achieve, until win32 can one day, hopefully address the drift issues head on https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=56

Dose it need to be a English install of win7?

and i hope he fixes 32 bit as well

he's fixing chromium and some 32-bit stuff

that's not 8to7

20:39

so no (edited)

vista without the perfect hardware isn't very usable tbh

The Cubis

Dose it need to be a English install of win7?

some things do require an english sku, yeah. but most of it should be fine otherwise

it'll either be to sluggish or have the problems that hardware that is "to new" have

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

vista without the perfect hardware isn't very usable tbh

its miserable. i've done it. don't do it

actually

docR

some things do require an english sku, yeah. but most of it should be fine otherwise

Okay nice then I can use my real win7 swe disk

did win32 add the stuff needed for chromium 32bit to work?

i have all 3rd gen now. vista is main on laptop, e6530. 7 primarily on the xeon 2667 v2 desktop, but vista is installed too

or was it just small stuff (edited)

i'll switch when some more programs/drivers work

20:41

mainly newer display drivers, because 372 handicaps things a bit

wasn't ximonite helping win32 but since he's taking a chill pill progress is going a bit slower

i would try and main vista for a month when discord starts working on vista

docR

i have all 3rd gen now. vista is main on laptop, e6530. 7 primarily on the xeon 2667 v2 desktop, but vista is installed too

you got a graphics card?

can't live without bd (edited)

bf?

ImSwordQueen

i would try and main vista for a month when discord starts working on vista

on 3rd gen hardware?

win32

bf?

betterdiscord

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

you got a graphics card?

in the desktop? yes, xeons dont have intel hd. i use a gtx 970

20:42

laptop, intel hd

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

on 3rd gen hardware?

older than that

with a 2016 intel hd driver ximonite modded

doesn't the 980ti work to

yes

20:42

that works on 2k, so

20:42

lol

980ti gaming on 2k

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

doesn't the 980ti work to

Imagine using a 3090 ti with vista lol

so just replace the gtx 970 with a 980ti and you got the perfect vista matchine

20:42

*machine

I suppose

tbf

20:43

the perfect vista machine is

The Cubis

Imagine using a 3090 ti with vista lol

with hardware in that era i dont even think it'll boot or if it does it'll be very buggy

i'm going to be buying my friend's 980 ti if all goes well with a potential new job

amd threadripper

20:43

980ti

20:43

256gb of ram

i can max out 128 gb on this board

wait can vista run on nvme drives?

ImSwordQueen

wait can vista run on nvme drives?

no

which is funny, thats what client vista ultimate maxes out at lol

20:44

this really is a vista machine trol

ImSwordQueen

256gb of ram

talking about server 2008 and not vista

docR

which is funny, thats what client vista ultimate maxes out at lol

wait so wheres 256gb coming from?

20:44

server 2008?

20:44

oh

server 2008 supports up to 2tb iirc

20:44

maybe lower than that

20:44

forgor

2tb on enterprise 32gb on standard

20:45

quite the jump

20:46

yeah 2TB

what?

that's x86

ik how is it supporting 64gb on x86

20:46

must be software trickery if that isn't cap

wait no 1TB

20:46

i got the wrong tab page

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

what?

does vista snipping tool always have that red box (edited)

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

must be software trickery if that isn't cap

yeah it's trickery

20:48

it can support higher ram capacity

20:48

but i believe the os can't use it all

20:49

it's a weird mixing bag

i might install 6003 on another partition for a week or two on my haswell pc just for shits and giggles

20:49

see what happens

20:51

i think the best platform for xp is haswell and the best for vista is ivy bridge

20:51

is that right

@ImSwordQueen can I install Linux and make a windows vista vm boot affter login in Linux?

The Cubis

@ImSwordQueen can I install Linux and make a windows vista vm boot affter login in Linux?

you mean the science elf method?

21:01

Yeah but performance will be shitty

21:01

and not recommended

Yes but on the ssd instead of usb

id just use windows7

21:01

itll still be shitty on ssd

21:02

because on virtualization

vm with gpu passthrough?

oofer_dww

vm with gpu passthrough?

I have my and r7 260m....

no integrated?

And my intel 5000 graficks

21:03

#laptop (edited)

boot linux on integrated

21:04

and passthrough the gpu

21:04

to the vm

21:04

i think anx had luck with this

Dose that have drivers for vista?

it should

Hmm

just use 13.12

What vm program shuld I use

oofer_dww

just use 13.12

???

i think if u use vms that run on the actual hardware you need the actual drivers right

qemu i think

oofer_dww

qemu i think

I have never got that to work

oofer_dww

qemu i think

doesnt that require the real drivers

well we have real gpu drivers

21:06

innit?

that, idk

we do

21:06

version 13.12

What is the most light Linux???

arch

Okay txh

21:08

Do you have eny guied @oofer_dww ??

you may need to work on your english

I know sorry

also the internet is your guide

21:09

for linux

Yee I whas just asking if you had one

if you have a question, write it in google and you'll likely get your answer

The Cubis

What is the most light Linux???

Alpine

The Cubis

Yee I whas just asking if you had one

Arch Linux Wiki

btw i use arch

I use Ubuntu on my gaming machine

bruh why

21:10

thats the one thing windows is good for

Windows have just ben broken for me recently and I don't know why and unbuntu works great so I don't complain

windows 10/11? broken? i agree

21:11

but what about something like win7

or Win8.1

oofer_dww

but what about something like win7

Ryzen 3 3100

use 8.1 if you want something light weight use windows 7 if you want things to just work

Not works supper grate with my b550 board

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

use 8.1 if you want something light weight use windows 7 if you want things to just work

Things on Win8.1 can 'just work' though

7 if you use adobe products

21:49

8.1 for the rest

oofer_dww

just use 13.12

WinDVD

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Still works right? Vista support ended 2017 (edited)

ImSwordQueen

but i believe the os can't use it all

no

00:05

applications can't use it all

00:05

applications can use 3.5gb or 4gb max

00:06

so i guess if you run 300 apps that use that many ram yeah

00:06

it'll go up to 64gb

The Cubis

Still works right? Vista support ended 2017 (edited)

13.12 driver was made in december 2013

00:59

thats the final AMD driver that supports vista officially

00:59

later ones (14.9 iirc) can be installed with modifications to the drivers

01:00

never actually got them to work though

01:00

and heard they are unstable

oofer_dww

if you have a question, write it in google and you'll likely get your answer

i have installed qeum in manjavro now i need help with the rest

WinDVD

13.12 driver was made in december 2013

pretty sure 13.12 supported it

oofer_dww

pretty sure 13.12 supported it

why would a 2013 driver support 2014 hardware

if the 2014 hardware was designed with that driver support in mind

i dont see why they would do that

06:47

they want you to use latest driver

even then

06:47

didnt the 15.6 beta work

unstable iirc

06:48

but i think 14.6 is stable

06:48

or 14.12

06:48

https://msfn.org/board/topic/173175-catalyst-1412-omega-on-vista/ here it was

Catalyst 14.12 ("Omega") on Vista

I realize that the number of people running Vista is quite small and the ones running Vista with a recentAMD Radeon is smaller still. But I wanted to share a modification for making Catalyst 14.12work on Vista since the last release officially supported for Vista was Cat 13.12.It seems like this ...

06:55

a little complex for some but not too hard to do

Can some one help me do a vista Qemu machine????

oofer_dww

pretty sure 13.12 supported it

It did

WinDVD

https://msfn.org/board/topic/173175-catalyst-1412-omega-on-vista/ here it was

With Extended Kernel, you should be able to use 15.6

oofer_dww

and passthrough the gpu

my host (laptop) dose not support passtrouhg

what is the latest build of steam that works on vista exkernel to date?

19:49

still the 20201006 or anything new?

19:49

it has been a year since that modded client was shared around

Only that one for now

19:55

but with 202202xx

19:55

as the latest update breaks support for 32 bit apps (edited)

it works up to 2020.10

23:02

just no store

23:02

needs to be used in compact mode

games updated after feb 2022 have an updates steamdll so they won't run atm

depends on the game

garrys mod

any updates on extended kernel for the past few months? (edited)

latest iso on the eclectic forum still seems to be the 2021 one

i use the ximonite.com dl

yesterday I got this working:

why not just use firefox

But there are so many 32 bit problems!

firefox works perfectly for me

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

why not just use firefox

I know, but people really want chromium.

im not gonna use any browsers that i've never heard of until now

23:53

firefox works just fine

I second the recommendation for librewolf, actually.

23:54

I haven't used firefox itself in awhile.

win32, why is it easier to make the extended kernel for 64 bit than 32 bit

23:55

if anything shouldn't it be the other way around

On x64, all function calls and data references are offsets to another virtual memory address as opposed to referencing a specific memory address. So we don't need to modify reloc tables.

how did you even get to this point to understanding a great deal of the source code did you just disassemble a shit load of files from 7 and vista?

That's part of it yes.

you probably understand vista better than the people who made it

23:59

they probably forgot everything

00:00

and how long have u been developing vista exkernel?

00:00

like since early 2020?

win32

yesterday I got this working:

based now i can add extensions to my spotify vista client

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

they probably forgot everything

I don't think so. The Windows dev team is probably in the thousands. They knew well enough what to do.

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

like since early 2020?

June 14, 2020

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

firefox is good tho

00:01

the only problem ive ever had with it was mega upload but they fixed that

win32

June 14, 2020

did blackcat inspire you

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

did blackcat inspire you

Certainly.

did you do this for just shits and giggles and it turned into something real

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

the only problem ive ever had with it was mega upload but they fixed that

Mozilla reported them to the FBI /s

and they settled by mega supporting firefox?

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

did you do this for just shits and giggles and it turned into something real

It was always going to be something real, even if I had a very poor understanding of the means at beginning.

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

and they settled by mega supporting firefox?

I saw "mega upload" and made a joke about Mozilla having them shut down

when did you get your first working prototype of exkernel

June 19, 2020 at about 23:45 local time. GIMP 2.10.24 was working.

was the original idea windows 7 kernel w/ vista shell?

No. That's just too messy.

00:07

Only 100% perfect shell port is win7 to 8

u think it's possible to do 7 kernel with vista shell

00:10

if it is that would probably be the easiest and best solution

vista kernel bette

00:31

r

00:32

on equal shells (progman) vista remains the superior choice

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

vista kernel bette

CAP

00:34

the only thing vista does better than 7 is the shell

1

00:34

change my mind

It's a lot easier to add functions to Vista than 7.

7 kernel: slower :(

Windows 7 can't boot with an enlarged kernel32/kernelbase.

00:38

Perhaps I'll get it working someday but it's certainly not as easy.

00:38

And because Vista's WFP is practically non-existent, it's as easy as modding NT 3.x/4.

Windows Vista is faster than Windows 7 for me on the same hardware. The DWM animations are much smoother. The shell is cleaner and more appeasing to look at. Vista’s kernel is more extendable than 7’s. It’s just a really damn good OS. Windows 7 isn’t bad, but Vista has a lot of things going for it that 7 does not

win32

And because Vista's WFP is practically non-existent, it's as easy as modding NT 3.x/4.

There are some tradeoffs; PE checksums are verified for more files in those early versions and are loaded into fixed memory address spaces, while on Vista you have to patch winload and CI and set values in the BCD store

@docR loves Windows 7, mainly because of its Libraries feature

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

7 kernel: slower :(

Cap

win5270

Windows Vista is faster than Windows 7 for me on the same hardware. The DWM animations are much smoother. The shell is cleaner and more appeasing to look at. Vista’s kernel is more extendable than 7’s. It’s just a really damn good OS. Windows 7 isn’t bad, but Vista has a lot of things going for it that 7 does not

win7 is more stable I think it's not slower or faster than vista tho

00:44

since they kinda the same thing

Vista SP2 is just as stable

@win32 wait so if you can get 7 kernel on 8.1 without any problems can you put 8.1 kernel on 7

The biggest thing 7 has over Vista now is drift correction. But win32 is planning to port that to Vista at some point

win5270

Vista SP2 is just as stable

Not from my experience, when I tried installing vista sp2 on my 2012 ivy bridge laptop it was just problem after problem luckily I managed to fix them but it was a pain in the dick

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

@win32 wait so if you can get 7 kernel on 8.1 without any problems can you put 8.1 kernel on 7

that's not possible either

7 just worked out of the box

I’ve had no issues installing Vista on several Ivy Bridge machines. Sounds like either shitty install media or the laptop had a shitty BIOS that tried to cockblock anything older than 7

my first problem was it couldn't configure hardware but I just installed raid drivers and I was good to go

00:47

my other problems were drivers and that took several days to fix that mess

That’s because Ivy didn’t even officially support Vista at first. Eventually they caved and later added Vista support due to an uproar but the drivers are hard af to find

i saw your forum post and downloaded the drivers they didn't work at first saying I need the drivers from my oem or some shit but for some reason a day later they worked

00:49

dont know why that is but ill take it

Haswell and newer however are nightmareish

00:51

Due to lack of drift correction and poor clock circuitry in the CPUs, Vista (and even Windows 7 on certain CPUs) have issues with failed services among other issues that can only be fixed by implementing drift correction into its kernel

win5270

Due to lack of drift correction and poor clock circuitry in the CPUs, Vista (and even Windows 7 on certain CPUs) have issues with failed services among other issues that can only be fixed by implementing drift correction into its kernel

is the windows 7 drift less bad on the certain cpus as opposed to vista

Yes, because 7 does have drift correction. However its imperfect, and sometimes it will drift if the CPU quality is poor enough

00:53

Drift correction was perfected in Windows 8.

why is it that drift doesnt happen on xp

It doesn’t happen on XP x86, because it only affects x64 OSes. x86 Vista for example doesn’t drift. Idk why it doesn’t happen on Windows XP/2003 x64 but from what Ximonite and win32 have said, the kernel and the way it handles CPUs is just completely different and it somehow manages to not be affected by the drift. Only Vista and 7 are affected by it, with Vista getting the worst of it sadly

is drift on 64 bit xp worse or better than on vista

01:01

or the same

01:01

oh nvm

01:01

misread

Yeah, x64 NT 5.2 doesnt have the issue for some reason

well like u said they changed vista massively and I do remember vista added a lot of changes to how it handles cpus for better performance

01:03

i bet they sacrificed something that didn't matter (at the time) for some performance gains

01:03

or some new features

01:06

or actually

01:06

it might just be abug

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

the only thing vista does better than 7 is the shell

finally a person with a brain

we all know it but we still love vista trol

win32 i think i borked my installation (edited)

10:11

ive used v6 iso and tried to install latest version of the kernel

10:11

some programs that should work on vista by default either give errors or straight up dont run

10:12

tried to restore but installer fails while trying to restore them

10:12

what did i do wrong?

Do you get a kernelol.dll error?

no such error like that

10:36

os runs but programs dont

10:36

it just wont execute

win5270

Windows Vista is faster than Windows 7 for me on the same hardware. The DWM animations are much smoother. The shell is cleaner and more appeasing to look at. Vista’s kernel is more extendable than 7’s. It’s just a really damn good OS. Windows 7 isn’t bad, but Vista has a lot of things going for it that 7 does not

Brb porting the 7 dwm animations on vista trol

E2

Do you get a kernelol.dll error?

exporttabletester gave "kernelol.dll is missing" error now (edited)

If you have kernel32.dll.bak in your SysWOW64 folder, rename it to kernelol.dll

let me check

If you don't, copy it from an original vista ISO from SysWOW64

ive did it

11:06

i will restart and see if it works

11:09

i dont get errors now but i cant execute the program this time

11:09

double click on it and programs do nothing at all

11:10

strange

11:11

i think i will have to reinstall but i also want to keep it for now until win32 sees this so we can figure out what is actually wrong somehow

11:12

i believe it is something on my end but i am not sure

from what I've heard, there is something wrong with the latest version of exkernel

11:13

I tried it out on a VM a while ago and I got the same errors

lodocus

it just wont execute

32 bit apps don't work here (on the latest extended kernel)

what is the latest version that works properly?

11:40

02042022?

ImSwordQueen

Brb porting the 7 dwm animations on vista trol

nah.

11:52

Port the Vista DWM animations on 8.1

11:52

@win32 i am sorry for pinging but may you check whats up?

there are many problems with x86 that the testing regime somehow could not detect in time...

13:06

most of them are fixed but not all...

i see

13:21

which latest version is the most stable?

The February 2022 one for me

13:39

I can use Steam with that one

13:40

I main Vista with that kernel release on my laptop. I have no problems

Ugh i guess i shouldn't have updated to the latest extended kernel

docR

The February 2022 one for me

0204?

June update of the extended kernel

february version seems to be working fine

14:58

no issues yet

I expected so, it's a solid release

15:20

What are you using this on btw?

I just got a genius idea for wn32

15:35

*win32

15:35

7 shell, vista kernel

docR

I expected so, it's a solid release

vista with kernel iso v6

15:37

by the way how to fix firefox text line bug?

15:37

i think there was a way to fix it (edited)

Before June 2022: in osver.ini:

15:42

[firefox path] Enabled=1 FirefoxFix=1

15:43

With June 2022 and later: [firefox path] Enabled=1 BuildNumber=7600

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

7 shell, vista kernel

No, it's just way too hard. It's messy C++ and COM BS (edited)

where is that file?

Windows folder

yeah

win32

With June 2022 and later: [firefox path] Enabled=1 BuildNumber=7600

i didnt have to do that on the latest esr

15:44

just enabled=1 firefoxfix=1

Maybe you had it globally set to the build number?

osver.ini

210 bytes

win32

Maybe you had it globally set to the build number?

nvm.

15:45

I removed the firefoxfix syntax in the latest version after some changes to the version spoofer. I wanted to harmonize all the version spoofs.

is firefoxfix a function of exkernel or firefox

exkernel

what does firefoxfix even do

by firefox path you mean .exe or folder itself?

folder and exe

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

what does firefoxfix even do

fixes broken font

okay

lodocus, make sure firefox is enabled and not disabled

15:46

*firefoxfix

15:47

because if its disabled it wont be fixed

Deformisani SAS

fixes broken font

Just like Chromium, Firefox removed a lot of legacy codepaths, which caused them to work terribly.

yeah

docR

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873303222226403408/882967196928733224/Intel_PHDGD_Vista.7z Modded 7 HD 4000 driver for Vista ExKern

link is down

15:47

please reupload

while were all here, do you guys agree?

no

15:47

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

lodocus, make sure firefox is enabled and not disabled

win32 pointed it out but thanks anyway

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

while were all here, do you guys agree?

ill just take that as a yes

though it doesnt look like its fixed

try using my osver.ini file

reboot

15:51

and you need dllsomethingsomething.reg

15:51

you can find it on win32's website forum thing

i did reboot

@lodocus try using my osver.ini file that i uploaded

does WMP10 not support .mov files?

lodocus

Click to see attachment 🖼️

is it in C:\Windows?

yes

C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe Firefoxfix=1 Enabled=1

15:52

you typed it wrong

15:52

Firefoxfix=1 goes before Enabled=1

lodocus

Click to see attachment 🖼️

what is wrong with your screen

camera doesnt really like crt

what driver do I need for winvista to sleep

lodocus

camera doesnt really like crt

i tried chipset but that doesnt seem to work

don't you have a lcd monitor @lodocus

for my vista rig i dont

rip

i wouldnt want one anyway

15:54

i like my crt

meanwhile who used crt on my pc before because i didn't have any other monitor that worked well

it would look nicer on lcd

vista was released at the time when lcd's were getting popular

RayZen

meanwhile who used crt on my pc before because i didn't have any other monitor that worked well

my first monitor was a 1980s sharp tv

RayZen

meanwhile who used crt on my pc before because i didn't have any other monitor that worked well

running windows 10, playing games and doing typical stuff on a crt monitor 1024x768@85hz

crt

RayZen

running windows 10, playing games and doing typical stuff on a crt monitor 1024x768@85hz

:( i have a 75hz monitor

RayZen

running windows 10, playing games and doing typical stuff on a crt monitor 1024x768@85hz

my pc still has a hd 6790 so i didn't have any issues with output

i remember i got a 1080 144hz monitor for like 100 bucks

also that crt was a samsung syncmaster 753s if you care

that was a fucking steal

RayZen

also that crt was a samsung syncmaster 753s if you care

i have a syncmaster 181t with image retention

it was new as well

15:56

dell

15:57

what driver do you need for vista to sleep

Deformisani SAS

Firefoxfix=1 goes before Enabled=1

didnt fix

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

RayZen

running windows 10, playing games and doing typical stuff on a crt monitor 1024x768@85hz

though i should prob have used 1152x864 at 75hz because stuff at 1024x768 is beginning to be too big (edited)

lodocus

didnt fix

what extended kernel build are you on?

maybe i need to put quotation marks for path

because for me it works on the latest june build

lodocus

maybe i need to put quotation marks for path

nope.

0204

0204??

15:57

never heard of that

02042022

15:57

february version

thats not the latest i think

15:57

huh

it is not

15:58

one version below

i had the 2021 version and firefox fix thing worked fine

heres mine that worked

osver.ini

71 bytes

RayZen

though i should prob have used 1152x864 at 75hz because stuff at 1024x768 is beginning to be too big (edited)

but yeah it's quite nice but the resolution is getting a bit too low, i could also use 1280x1024 but i can only do it at 65hz, i could try interlaced resolutions to deal with that i guess

currently on latest firefox typing this on vista

15:58

latest firefox esr

could you copy paste contents of your file?

[C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\Firefox.exe] Enabled=1 FirefoxFix=1

brackets

can you not see the contents of the file i posted?

i am on phonr

oh

okay its fixed now

16:01

it was missing [] brackets

i didn't need brackets

is minecraft supported in extended kernal

its supported without it

16:13

or at least was

16:13

idk if it still is

it is not beckuse microsoft droped support for xp and vista when it whas time to move to microsft acount

how old are you?

barisberat

link is down

@Ximonite

16:41

i should have it somewhere too. i shall look in a bit

16:41

i'll mirror it on mega. xi has nitro, i don't

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

idk if it still is

it is

has winaero tweaker ever supported vista?

Don't believe so

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

while were all here, do you guys agree?

Njet

њет

нет

ні (edited)

nu

i hate to be that guy, but #not-english

3

skip

nu

http://nu2.nu/

Nu2 Productions Website

Home page of the Nu2 website.

ah yes, bartpe

docR

@Ximonite

just use the newer driver

anyone have driver for ivy bridge power management

nope

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

anyone have driver for ivy bridge power management

does it shut down when you unplug it?(if its a laptop)

for some reason firefox 54 runs flawlessly on vista but on 7 its unstable.

ok

does anyone know how to fix this?

14:12

on mozilla thunderbird

use the right configuration, username or password.

on win 7 it works fine

19:38

i tried using the profile from my windows 7 install but that didn't work either

@win32 what exactly is preventing the newest steam from running on vista?

Part of is CEF.

the chromium stuff?

Yes.

i thought that got sorted out because of chromium/chrome support

No, it's all 32 bit.

oh

But I'm about to release the new extended kernel.

awesome

02:36

does it add a lot of 32 bit functions?

No, I had to stabilize everything so some have been removed.

ah

Do you want to reimplement them?

Some day I will.

22:07

ignore the fact this is 8.1, but... look at what I just brought into RTM's Sidebar.

world clock

22:24

heres the vista start orn

22:24

orb*

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Oh that window looks super janky

yeah idk why

22:34

meh.

22:34

~~that window's always janky.~~

It can look much better

22:58

I had a Vista theme for 8.1 that was almost 1:1 with Aero Glass

22:59

And that window looked fine too

isn't that windows fucked on 7 as well?

Marda33

I had a Vista theme for 8.1 that was almost 1:1 with Aero Glass

yeah, but given it's literally the only window I know of that is messed up like that...

23:16

literally every other instance of an extended client area window is fine with this msstyles.

ImSwordQueen

isn't that windows fucked on 7 as well?

somewhat

23:39

looks fine but the search font doesn't have the font smoothing applied

yep, no matter what combinations I put into WSB NOTHING changes about the window at all

23:53

except for getting worse

there, more based Sidebar.

still not based enough

Indeed

01:13

throws the Sidebar away

01:13

Now it's perfectly b a s e d . (edited)

01:18

Y'know, if someone ever makes a Vista to 7 Transformation Pack, it'd be epic trolling if they just make Sidebar have a transparent background with invisible sidebar controls troll

based

Deformisani SAS

based

why is this in #windows-vista

because why not

wrong channel cringe boy

you're an cringe boy

02:00

i just like the firedoge meme

02:00

i wonder if chromedoge is a thing lol

vista png background through control panel when

doge kid meme

Deformisani SAS

i just like the firedoge meme

my username legit used to be dogefox in 2018 and early 2019

00:50

with that exact pfp

I found it

01:43

after all this time, finally:

01:43

https://web.archive.org/web/20070415131727/http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_roadtogold_04.asp

01:43

@skip nice

Where's the extended kernel ISO link? It's supposed to be in pins but I don't see it

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=44&p=64#p64

Windows Vista with Extended Kernel (Current Version is v26102021)

Wait, what is this? Well, let's just say, it's exactly what it sounds like, so basically this is a Windows Vista x64 iso with the Extended Kernel by win32 prein

11:13

it is literally in the pins

lodocus

https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=44&p=64#p64

oh I was looking for a mediafire link

11:15

so I missed it

:|

win5270

if anyone wants to beat ximonite’s record, try 6000 on broadwell with an hp bios

i have a broadwell dell

00:45

does that count

how do i fix this?

16:05

this is the patched 2020 client

i believe valve changed something that broke these older clients

16:51

not 100% on that though

but last time it worked

16:51

on the previous version

2018?

Deformisani SAS

how do i fix this?

try restarting the network adapter

i did

16:56

and it doesn't work

WinDVD

2018?

2020

iirc login scheme was changed june 2020

with patches yeah it works

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yes

well the snappy driver installer worked but its def not snappy

23:45

the download speeds are excruciatingly slow

23:47

it took 40 minutes just to download the network driver

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

well the snappy driver installer worked but its def not snappy

Deformisani SAS

Click to see attachment 🖼️

my bad i thought this was general when i said that

15:22

edge on vista

k

(thx to Alex_#7777 for discovering it)

Great. I guess the crypt thing was sorted out. or something else

15:27

Any advancement with office 2013+

hello!

hi beta

Hello

Betajyst4094

Any advancement with office 2013+

Not yet

greetings beta

15:42

and wow vista is now 7 in the browser department lol

15:42

was already mostly there anyway

edge is a little stubborn to open

15:43

but ey. it works

i wonder if upgrading itunes might work

so close yet so far (edited)

docR

and wow vista is now 7 in the browser department lol

wdym

16:43

7 still supports all browsers as of right now (at least those that actually matter)

Yes, every browser except possibly Edge works on Vista now.

16:44

100%.

edge somewhat works now (edited)

16:44

so basically

16:44

it's the same as 7's

oh I thought he was saying 7's browser support is starting to be comparable to base vista

that doesn't make sense but ok

what's the plan when 7 starts to lose support with companies

I have written some win8/10 functions lately so I think we'll be doing good.

soon enough we will need a 7 extended kernel

I am rewriting some locale stuff now and hopefully after that .NET Core works 100%, and perhaps .NET 4.8 as well.

Abu Faraj al-Libbi

soon enough we will need a 7 extended kernel

There was vxkex, but it hasn't been updated for awhile. I'll have to tell him that I'm doing more win10 functions that his thing lacks, as well as the need to update BCrypt functions in the future.

tbh i think you'd be the best person to make a 7 extended kernel

16:47

you've already disected a lot of windows 7

16:47

but maybe you should have some people help you with 7 before its to late

16:48

if you take on the task

I simply can't do Windows 7. There is no time for it for me.

16:48

Vista 32 bit and kernel mode are already being neglected.

as of right now there is no way to get vmware workstation 16 working on 7 right?

There is, someone added functions to user32

firefox news

16:52

wtf is a "core"?

how

17:08

i tried to run edge and it gave me a error

1.install edge in 7 or later 2.copy it over 3.make sure you have july 25 kernel installed (older wont work) 4.run it, if it crashes first time just try again

ok

17:11

microsofts website crashed windows lmao

17:12

second time. crash

i couldnt download it from ms site for some reason

17:13

download the MSI from majorgeeks

17:13

@Deformisani SAS

17:13

and make sure it's for x64 ofc

17:13

it'll install itself to the program files (x86) folder regardless for some reason, but it's indeed x64

i downloaded it from softpedia

win5270

1.install edge in 7 or later 2.copy it over 3.make sure you have july 25 kernel installed (older wont work) 4.run it, if it crashes first time just try again

you don't need to install it on 7

17:26

you need the offline installer

17:26

which can be found here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/business/download

Download Edge for Business | Microsoft

Download Edge for business from Microsoft. Find Edge for business updates that best support your operating system and learn how to use Edge for your work.

17:26

when it works*

i tried the offline installer on vista and it didnt work for me

17:27

it acted like it was going to, but it wound up not doing anything

you need to use osver.ini

i feel like i did but maybe not

and for some reason it doesn't drop the shortcuts (edited)

this was a few days ago so cant remember

ImSwordQueen

and for some reason it doesn't drop the shortcuts (edited)

ah ok that might be why

17:28

also edge installs to pfx86 and i was looking in the normal pf folder

17:28

even tho its x64

17:28

so i figured the installer just didnt do anything

doesn't chrome do that as well?

havent tried

17:29

i always just use chrome portable

yeah it just drops the x64 executables inside (x86) for some reason

ImSwordQueen

doesn't chrome do that as well?

Yes it does

17:32

On my mother's 8.1 install.

17:32

I think it may date back to when Chrome was x86 only though

most likely

they should work

is thare a good guied some whare so i can run win vista from usb on eny computer?

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how unfortunate

Why is that?

because freedom can't force people to use IE

Deformisani SAS

i downloaded it from softpedia

bro just use rufus download tool

22:21

softpedia is a minefield (edited)

no

22:23

rufus doesn't have a download tool wdym?

neat (edited)

Deformisani SAS

rufus doesn't have a download tool wdym?

it does

22:30

how convient this is the one time i dont have rufus installed and can't show you

win5270

Click to see attachment 🖼️

brave's chrome version is 1 version newer here

22:40

(104 here vs 103 on chrome edge and opera) (edited)

brave clearly needs to implement malware first

malware causes version number to increment by 1

yes

22:42

maybe that's why opera GX is higher than opera

22:42

isnt opera owned by some sussy company now

yes

22:43

china

well then the regular version is likely also malware

more like spyware

the gx version just has more malware hence higer version

unironically

22:43

people who use opera GX (edited)

22:43

are normies

literally

clearly people with a brain knows that opera GX is just chromium with rgb

rgb browser lmao

and malware

those memes with rgb slapped on everything really are nearing reality

22:45

rgb water bottle

wtffff f.lux crashed on me

22:46

i was wondering why it wasn't all orange

22:47

god the quality

real

ImSwordQueen

are normies

"Enderman" lmfaooo

07:53

Now makes the dumbest tweets to tailor to young Windows fan kids

enderman tweets are some of the dumbest things i've ever read

win5270

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Now waiting until Discord client works troll

Scamdisk

enderman tweets are some of the dumbest things i've ever read

"Did you know <blatantly obvious shit>?"

07:57

I don't even follow him and his tweets still show up in my feed

or just misinformation or bad takes

For the few times that I enter Twitter out of extreme boredom

enderman is legit just kid entertainment

09:25

no one should give a fuck about him

09:26

i have no respect for someone who cant disable time sync or use bluepill or edit together shit to appear real

RayZen

Now waiting until Discord client works troll

use armcord

here's an example of obvious shit

#RadMorning

here's an example of obvious shit

he does get tons of likes from 9yo twitter users tho

11:37

i wouldnt be mad at him doing it but at the little kids who like that shit

Is there any possible way to boot Vista from VHD? Speaking third party too.

can you not mount vhd using custom linux tools

12:05

and boot off it

E2

Is there any possible way to boot Vista from VHD? Speaking third party too.

there was this guide to vhdboot windows

oofer_dww

can you not mount vhd using custom linux tools

I can, lol, but what tools?

skip

there was this guide to vhdboot windows

Mind pointing me to it?

i remember easybcd incorporating one of them

Never had success with easyBCD, it would show a error, that's it

hmm

12:12

presumably due to some driver not working

Funnily, they mention some workaround

E2

Mind pointing me to it?

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/boot-to-vhd--native-boot--add-a-virtual-hard-disk-to-the-boot-menu?view=windows-11

Boot to a virtual hard disk: Add a VHDX or VHD to the boot menu

12:18

idk if it works with vista

12:18

i tried it with 8.1

Don't think so. 7 and later have support implemented into the kernel+drivers. Vista lacks the functionality, might need 3rd party drivers, or stuff from 7 backported, I believe

well then

I hope there is a 3rd party tool

#RadMorning

here's an example of obvious shit

Did you know I fucked your mother last night?

Did you know that meme isn't funny?

did you know that we are currently in #windows-vista?

also don't make fights out of the blue

???

?

#RadMorning

here's an example of obvious shit

shii bro you called out enderman

21:33

just so you know, he is russian.

21:33

probably wrote that tweet next to the tsar bomb

i will be brutally honest:

21:48

enderman is an idiot

21:48

kid exploiter

21:48

for money

oofer_dww

kid exploiter

that sounds wrong

oofer_dww

enderman is an idiot

you’re entitled to that opinion but please keep it in #deleted-channel , don’t fill this channel up with it

7000's sidebar "works" now on vista

21:03

it commits die when you open the add gadget menu

21:03

which is not ideal

21:10

damn. all my gadgets vanished

21:11

they are here

21:11

but they disappear after a second

6519's "works"

21:24

doesn't open the add gadget pane though

21:25

also breaks certain gadgets

#RadMorning

here's an example of obvious shit

people dont use screensavers anymore?

15:33

i love screensavers

Michael

people dont use screensavers anymore?

why would they

15:38

I still don't get why didn't computers just turn off the monitors back then

15:38

maybe it wasn't supported?

15:38

I know the CRT I had would go to standby when no video was fed into it

RaduTek

why would they

i think they look cool

RaduTek

I still don't get why didn't computers just turn off the monitors back then

many crt's took 30 minutes or more to warm up after being turned on

15:40

so it was preferred to just leave them on (edited)

ohhh right

Michael

i think they look cool

I do as well (the Vista aurora one and bubbles is really nice)

15:41

but I wouldn't just sit and look at them for longer than a minute

well again people would leave them on for that reason and if you just had it sitting on the windows desktop for long enough it would burn in

15:45

so you'd use a screesaver to have some activity so it didn't burn in

thunderbird now works properly. nice

@win32 is it expected that the latest (jul. 25) extended kernel update busts up ff fonts?

07:42

tried at first just buildnumber 7600

07:42

didn't work

07:42

then minorversion 1

07:43

didn't work

07:43

then threw in the 2 i thought would work

07:43

still did not work

it worked for me

07:44

if i set to minor version 0 and build number to 6003 the font is broken

07:44

but if i set the minor version to 1 and build number to 7601 the font is normal

07:44

@Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

07:44

its 7601. not 7600

lemme try

07:54

still busted

07:54

spotify desktop works now though (very cool!)

You forgot Enabled=1

is that really it?

Should be, not under global tho

well i'll be darned

07:57

sweet

07:58

rockin

07:58

no more chrome for spotify

Nice. does waterfox support widevine?

07:59

Because firefox, for some reason, doesn't

it's probably possible in ff (and wf) i just don't have the time and skill to get it working

07:59

all i'd use with it is netflix but i haven't watched netflix in forever and now i've got spotify for desktop and i pirate most of my movies

Lol. same

08:00

Okay, now I need to somehow turn 8.1 into a vhdx and try to install Vista alongside (edited)

turn 8.1 into a pile of zeros

08:01

install only vista

08:01

@win32 thank you for awesome kernel

Would gladly, the moment it supports Nvidia encoding, and Steam. that's all

08:02

Also IDA pro

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

Click to see attachment 🖼️

what waterfox version is that

latest

classic?

no

it doesn't look like that on screenshots

custom css

oh

08:47

i'll reboot into vista rn

08:47

SSE4.2 requirement is useless

yeah

11:43

waterfox devs are gay af

11:44

what is that

barisberat

SSE4.2 requirement is useless

They backed out of that because the community backlash was (rightfully) brutal lol

16:42

It requires 4.1 now, which is supported by Core 2 and Phenom

fuck that. i'm on an athlon x2 5000+

docR

They backed out of that because the community backlash was (rightfully) brutal lol

or they saw that nobody was using waterfox anymore

17:43

because they cut their main audience

Deformisani SAS

fuck that. i'm on an athlon x2 5000+

L

17:46

x4 640 best athlon

17:46

work again

ImSwordQueen

because they cut their main audience

Yeah lol

18:25

that was beyond stupid

ImSwordQueen

Click to see attachment 🖼️

awesome

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

x4 640 best athlon

x2 240

20:05

best because i have it

20:05

along with an athlon 64 4200

@ImSwordQueen do you have vista beta 1-2 branding banner?

I don't

12:57

And i can't get it

taking about the vista winver banner with the white flag

12:58

its fine. thanks anyway

this one?

13:02

Vista has the white variant in basebrd with the sku name too

@lodocus

101.zip

9.2 KB

ImSwordQueen

this one?

thats the one

E2

@lodocus

thanks. i will check it

surc

I also finally installed Server 2008 today.

19:44

It looks awesome on my new 1080p

wow audio is super bad in Vista on VMware 15

19:45

at least on XP if you play something in WMP it sounds fine

19:45

on Vista it sounds horrible

19:45

like sometimes it starts out playing fine

19:46

but then it goes bad

A close fix is setting audio quality to 48000 hz

well my output device is also set to 48 KHz so it's probably a good idea anyways

19:47

interesting that it supports full 7.1 surround

19:48

what do y'all have to say about setting caption buttons to the Windows 7 size?

It's funny that openMPT's windows 10 requirement is, seemingly, purely artificial

RaduTek

what do y'all have to say about setting caption buttons to the Windows 7 size?

It cripples the tray icons

yeah just noticed that :(

E2

A close fix is setting audio quality to 48000 hz

now it went bad again

19:50

maybe I should reboot

You set DVD and not studio, right?

I set to studio

19:51

wow the startup tone was utter noise

I think DVD was what fixed it for me.

19:52

Not fully tho

and I don't see a fix for audio for Vista out there (edited)

19:53

could be because I have 4 cores set to the VM

19:53

but that was on a forum post about Workstation 7 and 8

19:55

is the Photo Gallery in Vista and 7 made in WPF?

19:56

cause resizing the window is super clean

19:56

unlike WMP where you can see the GUI lagging behind the border resize

19:56

plus the toolbar items' background on hover fades in and out the Vista photo viewer explains why on Windows 7 the toolbar hover background looks so weird cause on Vista it matches WMP, while on Windows 7 it looks weird

IIRC, they banned NET in the shell completely, since the longhorn pre-reset fiasco, only Media Center uses it (edited)

yeah can't be .NET cause Windows Mail also doesn't have any artifacts on resize and it's surely Win32

E2

IIRC, they banned NET in the shell completely, since the longhorn pre-reset fiasco, only Media Center uses it (edited)

honestly kind of sad, .NET is quite powerful

20:00

for Media Center it makes sense to keep it cause it's already coded in .NET :P

RaduTek

honestly kind of sad, .NET is quite powerful

at least with Windows 8 and Metro they've started to embrace .NET more and more

20:00

wish they gave WinForms the love it needed to get more GUI elements

20:00

but then again WPF

RaduTek

at least on XP if you play something in WMP it sounds fine

yeah

RaduTek

wow audio is super bad in Vista on VMware 15

there is a fix

tell me

20:02

in the vista exkernel server

oh yeah i remember that

skip pinned a message to this channel. 09/08/2022 20:02

RaduTek

honestly kind of sad, .NET is quite powerful

NET was pretty new at the time, and they didn't want Longhorn to happen again

nice to have pin perms

Deformisani SAS

Click to see attachment 🖼️

can you give me an invite?

skip

nice to have pin perms

20:03

holy moly

thanks discord for adveritising me nitro

20:03

https://discord.gg/Zrj2je9e

i dont use vista and am not planning to but i will join anyway

20:04

hopefully its not full of elitism

skip

hopefully its not full of elitism

20:04

what kind of elitism

skip

hopefully its not full of elitism

well in it it's pretty much the same peeps as here

RaduTek

well in it it's pretty much the same peeps as here

yes

i use vista from time to time

20:05

although i am waiting for win32 to make steam work properly (servers and stuff)

Deformisani SAS

Click to see attachment 🖼️

now I guess it'll work in AC'97 mode?

no

20:06

it fixes the audio crackling bug

20:06

permanently unless vmware modifies the vmx

oh now it's using a VMware driver

Deformisani SAS

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Oh, nice

before it was using generic Microsoft HD Audio driver

i'll reboot into vista rn

fix seems good

20:08

I should probably combine all the servers with Windows logos into one folder

real

tek

20:09

why can't they emulate a Realtek HDA codec chip in VMware

i just have a folder for all the tech servers (edited)

I want realtek effects

then one for games

20:09

then the other for public servers or misc ones

20:09

and one for friendgroups of course

I have a mess of folders

20:09

they used to make sense

20:09

now they don't

mine still do

20:09

sorta

I have 3 folders of servers I rarely touch

20:12

I wish the top toolbar of VMware in full screen were less tall

i am back

20:18

my hard drive took its time to boot vista

20:18

not sure why as nothing is being loaded in the background

I'm running my VMs from my HDD

20:23

and they run super fast

20:24

well before I had NVMe and 5400 RPM USB now I have NVMe and 7200 RPM SATA

20:27

Winblows Vista

20:28

wish Microsoft made a gadget that just works as a remote control for WMP

20:28

such a lost opportunity

i'm on real hardware

I could be

RaduTek

such a lost opportunity

yeah

but my Vista PC is loud cause it's a mini PC with a loud fan

RaduTek

Winblows Vista

not running on real hardware smh

meanwhile my desktop with VMs "purrs"

I absolutely love the Windows Energy screen saver

20:36

shame I think screens avers are utter useless (edited)

20:36

doesn't mean it doesn't look good

buy a crt

20:36

and experience vista on that

20:36

nah

20:37

I'd rather have Vista on the Eee PC with a 4200 RPM spinning HDD

:doom:

but I don't have a 4200 RPM SATA drive

why that

20:37

:doom:

LCD and portable

why wanna experience hell

damn I love having a good PC

20:38

can have multiple VMs turned on using a lot of RAM

20:38

I think I will upgrade to 32 GBs of RAM just to have 0 fucks to give about memory ever again

RaduTek

I wish the top toolbar of VMware in full screen were less tall

use exclusive mode

20:38

troll

I know about it

20:38

but then I can't pan to diff monitor to chat on discock

btw if you use the ssd to keep the vms

20:39

allocate the drive space to vms instead of making it use space overtime

nah I keep them on the HDD

ImSwordQueen

allocate the drive space to vms instead of making it use space overtime

any perf advantage?

yeah

20:40

it will get slower overtime

20:41

also i heard it's not good for the ssd

20:41

not sure about that though

doesn't make sense though

20:42

cause it's doing the same amount of writing

20:43

when you select to allocate the whole size of the virtual disk it won't fill that space with 0's I think

i heard about that

RaduTek

when you select to allocate the whole size of the virtual disk it won't fill that space with 0's I think

it just creates a large file with no content

meanwhile the slower thing i tested it

20:43

and it becomes slower

any effect of the virtual disk cleanup option

20:43

and defragmenting the virtual disk?

i wouldn't even bother with that

after installing Windows 7 VMware prompted me to do that

if you use that vm a lot then yeah. you should use them

20:45

but if you use the vm only for 2-5 times then it's not worth it

20:50

HOW TO FIX CRACKLING AUDIO IN VMWARE (Windows Vista) Go to the folder that contains the virtual machine. Open the folder. Open the folder and find whatever you named the virtual machine.vmx Open it in notepad. Remove the line "sound.virtualDev = "hdaudio" by @\Calasay on Windows Vista Extended Kernel

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 09/08/2022 20:50

pinning the message directly here because the font in the screenshot gave me nausea

20:52

also we reached 50 pinned messages here. maybe a clean up is needed @RaduTek

Betajyst4094

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW6GSa14xXI

safe to unpin?

20:53

seems like shitpost

ask in the mod room

20:54

i asked already for a cleanup in there

20:54

but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

20:54

something happened™️

it's a shitpost who cares

20:55

useful info is more important

actually

20:55

fuck it

20:55

i will do the thing i asked

found 7 pins that don't seem that useful

20:56

honestly put more shit on Discord for a stupid 50 pin limit

20:56

it's fucking 2022 why the limit

20:56

no physical reason

don't delete them before saying which ones

Betajyst4094

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW6GSa14xXI

unpinned this

ok that one is fine

20:57

i unpinned the deskhack one as it's already in important info

20:57

or whatever i named the pinned message

RaduTek

found 7 pins that don't seem that useful

whats the deal with pinning random bs

20:57

jokes

unpinned the vista extended kernel iso forum post

20:58

as it's already in important info

i personally do not find jokes about bosnia particularly entertaining

skip

whats the deal with pinning random bs

20:58

this in #deleted-channel so who cares (disclaimer: not pinned by me) (edited)

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 09/08/2022 20:58

yay i got pinned

1

skip

yay i got pinned

https://discord.com/channels/834204256210386944/834204256729825310/969512215520624660

20:59

https://discord.com/channels/834204256210386944/834204256729825310/969513461979684904

i am going to

1

btw

murder you radutek

21:00

fuck

@RaduTek don't unpin massclaw messages

21:00

ty

I'm not thinking about unpinning anything else

21:00

and I centainly wouldn't unpin anything close to useful info

actually i have an idea

RaduTek

https://discord.com/channels/834204256210386944/834204256729825310/969512215520624660

skip

Click to see attachment 🖼️

anyways #deleted-channel

21:01

you can get pinned there how much you want

1

ImSwordQueen pinned a message to this channel. 09/08/2022 21:01

so it stays up

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

the "& knuckles" is funny

E2

first two could make sense to stay though

finally a good joke in this server

skip

finally a good joke in this server

get pinn'd

the massclaw message does not get unpinned

21:02

if it gets unpinned

21:02

wls gets deleted

ImSwordQueen

wls gets deleted

archived\*

RaduTek

first two could make sense to stay though

First one has a dead link and a link that's already mentioned

no

21:03

deleted

21:03

i will personally ask doc to delete all channels

21:03

because of that

Second is an old memory dump, idk if it's important anymore

ImSwordQueen

the massclaw message does not get unpinned

but it links to the [redacted]

we will ask the post-ers for confirmation if unpinning is necessary (edited)

@win32 can the memory dump be unpinned or do you still need it?

21:04

radu

21:04

you're too slow

21:04

shush

ImSwordQueen

you're too slow

wdym

skip

but it links to the [redacted]

don't care

21:04

i already pinned win32

21:04

as he is the one that needs it

21:04

for fixing vista on ryzen

bro is on a pinning spree

pinged

21:04

i cantnasfnjasfjnhoasfjnosfan

skip

bro is on a pinning spree

p i n n a g e

21:04

wicked pin

ImSwordQueen

@win32 can the memory dump be unpinned or do you still need it?

no

unpinnable

no to what

21:04

to get unpinned

21:05

or the need it part

21:05

i'll guess we will never know

i meant you can unpin it

oh kk

21:06

don

21:06

ok this channel got cleaned a little bit

ImSwordQueen

i'll guess we will never know

you probably interrupted his drinking session

21:06

mans always busy drinking

the rest stays until we run out of 50 pins again

lodocus

just dont use computer

i'm unpinning this

no

21:07

radu don't

21:07

21:07

i can't use :Ralseigun: sad

that message is very wise and useful information

21:07

why unpin

yes

with this attitude it's never going to be clean (edited)

we don't need to unpin further

that had no reason to stay up

i said we don't need to unpin further

what's happening here?

unpinning junk (edited)

ImSwordQueen

i said we don't need to unpin further

why not just unpin all useless stuff in one go

21:08

:P

because

21:09

funny

21:09

just dont use computer

funny can be in any other channel

21:09

#deleted-channel is a recommendation

Yeah, funni stuff but, personally, I think the pins would be better with only related stuff (edited)

E2

Yeah, funni stuff but, personally, I think the pins would be better with only related stuff (edited)

well if it weren't for that pins wouldn't have been sprinkled with some jokes

like #windows-8

Some are fine, ig

honestly i'm still proud of the image in #windows-8

21:10

and if someone unpins it

21:10

i will unpin my stuff

Jeez

chill dude

21:11

anyways that channel still has many slots left so no need of unpinnage

nobody should touch that image :ralseigun:

RaduTek

anyways that channel still has many slots left so no need of unpinnage

because it got cleaned before

can we all agree that Discord shouldn't have a limit on stupid stuff like channel pins

21:12

but I guess discord devs are very much fond of cockblocking everything

nah you don't understand

21:12

pinned messages weight more than 500MB

pinned messages is just an array of message IDs

21:13

how much space could that that take up

i'm joking

I know, this is not addressed towards your message

because discord chooses to make nitro upload size 500MB for some fucking reason

21:13

do you need to upload 8k porn or smth? (edited)

meanwhile cockblocking everyone to 8 MBs

21:13

at least don't do it for images

21:14

or videos

also

21:14

discord is cutting nitro classic off

21:14

so you are either

21:14

stuck at 8mb

21:14

stuck at 20mb

21:14

stuck at 500mb

21:14

literally what's the point

really every restriction discord does is just to annoy people into Nitro

Telegram is doing it the best

unironically

and every other restriction that can't be improved with Nitro or Boosts is just there as an ultimate fuck you

every part of the UI became an advertisement

21:15

I think we should be lucky that the only thing Discord is advertising is Nitro

here was one but now it's gone

and not something else

21:15

like using Google ads junk

21:15

to get their ads

ImSwordQueen

every part of the UI became an advertisement

i don't have any nitro advertisements

21:15

HONESTLY

21:16

I WOULD RATHER HAVE AN AD INSTEAD OF A NITRO AD

yeah

IF IT MEANS I SEE IT LESS

I would rather not

21:16

honestly, I would rather not have any ads

people: wInDoWs 11 hAs aDs iN tHe sTaRt mEnU the whole settings app:

but the Nitro ads are okay with me

RaduTek

people: wInDoWs 11 hAs aDs iN tHe sTaRt mEnU the whole settings app:

the stupid shortcuts you can easily and quickly unpin but all the Microsoft 365 plugs you can't (edited)

that's what I hate about Win11

also the OneDrive nags to back up your files in the cloud

21:17

people don't complain about actual ads

not everyone uses Bing Rewards or Microsoft 365... or OneDrive

RaduTek

people don't complain about actual ads

just the easiest thing to remove without any tweaks at all

i found this lol

21:17

white orb legacy server

Samsung forces you now to install TikTok on some phones in the US Windows 11 just has a shortcut to install TikTok Guess at whom people are more angry (edited)

with badly cropped invite banner

ImSwordQueen

i found this lol

ıdows acy 'er (edited)

21:20

there used to be a custom server invite bg

21:20

but now it's gone

no boosts

oh yeah

21:20

I forgot about that

want to display a custom image that would take us 0 effort to do:

pay us

betterdiscord should just use custom css by default to hide the nitro ads (edited)

21:21

its annoying

there's a plugin that does that already

21:21

sadly

21:21

i can't show it because

21:21

my plugins section got removed

21:21

:(

21:21

btw let's move to #lounge or #general

damn

good idea

i kinda need that plugin

ImSwordQueen

i found this lol

my ripcord still shows the white orb

ImSwordQueen

here was one but now it's gone

i still have that one at the top

02:01

it only shows up if ur in almost 100 servers and its like "plz get nitro to join more servers

"

02:01

and im just like, whatever ill leave a server im not active in if i hit 100

lightshot works on extended kernel

Deformisani SAS

lightshot works on extended kernel

lightshot works on normal vista too

08:49

and xp

for me on my vm it gave me an error

08:49

on xp i know it works

09:01

one thing annoying about Vista and 7

09:01

is that they had 2 Sticky Notes apps

09:01

they should've put pen input in the gadget version

09:01

and have it be the only sticky notes

Win7 had only one sticky notes app

1

oh wait the gadget sticky notes are part of 7/8 Sidebar (edited)

09:08

anyways sticky notes are like the perfect use of the Sidebar

09:08

shame they removed the sidebar on Windows 7

09:09

lol

lol what?

RaduTek

shame they removed the sidebar on Windows 7

use vista's sidebar

I just use 8 Sidebar

09:11

cause it's sidebar is better

09:12

you can expand gadgets inside the sidebar

09:12

rather than only having them expanded when they're not on the sidebar like in Vista

i like vista's sidebar

RaduTek

rather than only having them expanded when they're not on the sidebar like in Vista

bro there's literally an expand button

on Windows 7

17:10

on Vista there isn't

tell me a gadget rn

clock

17:11

nono

that expands

news feed

rss?

sticky notes (edited)

yes

bro wtf i remember there being an expand button

17:11

:(

lol :))

pretty sure news feed has one

on 7 i guess :(((

oofer_dww

pretty sure news feed has one

on Vista no.

17:12

on 7 yes

vistronnon

all gadgets with that behaviour get an expand button on Windows 7

Resuming from #windows-7

19:15

https://youtu.be/0zqI8-ZFt9w

ThoughtsMedia

REVIEW: Samsung Q1 Ultra UMPC

19:15

800mhz aero

19:16

hmm yes (edited)

@Scamdisk you got latest extended kernel iso?

15:02

whatever imma update the iso myself

you waited a whole two minutes

15:03

check pinned messages

nah i will just update normal vista (edited)

15:06

found msdn iso (edited)

okay

Deleted User

nah i will just update normal vista (edited)

pain

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

you're lucky that you can install vista ;-;

16:24

meanwhile i have to use 10 sac

power_of_heavy_metal

RayZen

you're lucky that you can install vista ;-;

you mean i found a good pc for vista

16:25

i think this vista iso is bad

Deleted User

you mean i found a good pc for vista

that too

its so sloooow

msdn iso is slow?

16:25

whatchu on

its still shutting down

16:25

idk just doesnt feel smooth

i wish i could go back to ukraine already

16:25

because fuck this shitty place

where are you at (edited)

16:26

also

16:26

#deleted-channel

oofer_dww

where are you at (edited)

netherlands

16:38

southern part specifically

based ivy user

posting images in mypal still doesnt work

WinDVD

based ivy user

cpu is great

16:51

aaaaaaaaaa https://imgur.com/pkFVFTc

16:55

this iso is sus

16:55

some stuff loads slow

16:56

for example windows update

16:56

omg its running at 1 frame per minute

16:57

gonna use scamdisks up to date iso (edited)

Deleted User

posting images in mypal still doesnt work

On Discord web in MyPal? or?

docR

On Discord web in MyPal? or?

yes

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

nice system ^^

doesnt work on xp either so its mypal

17:35

@Scamdisk your up to date iso is not bootable

interesting

it should be

sounds like a problem on your end

it absolutely should be, yeah

17:36

how are you burning the iso?

17:37

it works on my ivy systems using rufus or the stick formatter from betajyst, mbr/ntfs mode

17:37

could be your usb? or perhaps a bios setting?

17:38

"Gigabyte OEM". What are the specs if you don't mind?

17:38

i've known gigabyte boards to be a bit cursed at times, but it should be able to boot this iso at the least

17:40

although I did used to have this MSI Z97 board that, for the life of me would not install Windows 7 by ordinary means. Not even 8.1, for that matter. Last phase at Completing Installation hard froze every time. I thought it was my RAM, graphics card, everything. I ruled out everything, but that fucking board. I ended up getting it installed by moving a backup clone of 7 to my SSD

17:40

was a fun system otherwise. gtx 950, i7 4790k. 970 by the end. i kept my 970 and the drives and whatnot for the dell x99, later x79 workstation i would switch to

17:41

oh but get this, it could install drifta. thats what i ended up stuck with for months, and why i involuntarily became a drift expert

17:41

docR

was a fun system otherwise. gtx 950, i7 4790k. 970 by the end. i kept my 970 and the drives and whatnot for the dell x99, later x79 workstation i would switch to

according to intels website it wasnt codenamed haswell at all but rather "devil's canyon"

18:08

which the i5-4690k is also codenamed

Where can I download latest extended kernel

18:59

pins?

18:59

win32 site?

before asking, always first check pinned messages.

how do i install 6003 on vista

19:14

this is just sha 2 for it

19:19

@win32 sorry for ping

i believe this is a cumulative update so it will upgrade you to 6003

ah thanks a lot

@win32 I need these 2 and neither of them is not exactly vista

19:42

first one is for server 2008 and another is for windows 7

well You obivously gotta install the server 2008 R1 ones

wait there are 2008 r1 ones?

Scamdisk

well You obivously gotta install the server 2008 R1 ones

can i just run the instller?

19:43

the msu

19:43

or i need to do smth else

Just run the msus for both of those

ok thanks

Got Firefox installer and everything to work, had to turn off my PC though

23:22

windows 2007

none other than. (edited)

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Click to see attachment 🖼️

wnr

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

none other than. (edited)

the former windows vista mod

it's build 9200...

01:06

That is why WNR is confusing and should die.

WNR is only created by worthless, retarded, asshole kids who have no life other than computer without knowing how to use computer 24/7

all working

nice

10:55

that theme looks terrible not gonna lie

10:55

on firefox

Deleted User

all working

use css to make the titlebar transparent

11:01

#web pins

oofer_dww

wnr

You're retarded

12:23

Windows 2007 was the codename for vista starter

no

Vruh 2

the former windows vista mod

What mod?

12:44

Windows 2007 is an official Beta by Microsoft.

12:46

@win32 @oofer_dww fake Windows fans troll

Deformisani SAS

no

12:47

Windows starter 2007

12:48

literally it's only 2007 and starter inverted there

12:48

literally says he is a vista fan

12:48

doesn't know that windows 2007 was the codename for starter

12:50

OFFICIAL.

Deformisani SAS

that theme looks terrible not gonna lie

what abt now

skip

use css to make the titlebar transparent

thanks

@skip how do i do it

userchrome.css

Deleted User

@skip how do i do it

check pinned messages in #web

doesn't work

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

Click to see attachment 🖼️

my favorite processor

my copy of Windows Vista looking kinda weird rn ngl.

17:27

I guess it's probably 'cos I went with AERO Express due to underpowered hardware, idk. troll

(edited)

17:31

This is how it came, I guess. troll

Yeah it came

ImSwordQueen

You're retarded

im not retarded, i am reatarded

you're oofer

22:20

dwm

imswordjester

[Explorer] paiddom

15:54

vista still being built

good

what is that

where

oofer_dww

what is that

Deez nutz

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

where

Microsoft

oofer_dww

what is that

???????????????????????? (an official Microsoft place) (edited)

Deleted User

what abt now

Too dark

i like black

23:46

gray looks ugly

23:46

for me

@Scamdisk Is there a mirror for your updated Vista ISO? I hate Google Drive

#RadMorning

@Scamdisk Is there a mirror for your updated Vista ISO? I hate Google Drive

chrome does that, try firefox

I did it in Chrome so I could avoid this

09:08

I thought Firefox did this

09:08

I'll try with FF

10:36

2

mydockfinder ?

Cairo Desktop

Ah yes, Not MATE

#RadMorning

@Scamdisk Is there a mirror for your updated Vista ISO? I hate Google Drive

@Scamdisk now that you're here

i don't think i have a mirror for that

11:40

Mega sucks, MediaFire is MediaFire

11:40

Should i really just upload it to IA

11:40

also that iso doesnt include the platform update

Scamdisk

Should i really just upload it to IA

probably the best choice

11:41

especially since IA improved their download speeds recently

Upload speeds took a tank tho (edited)

‍♂️

Is cloud.mail.ru or yandex disk good?

ehh, even worse upload speeds than IA

It's fine here

yes, but not in Romania

Ok, I can mirror it then

11:42

Link?

11:43

Nevermind

good luck getting it from GDrive

Sure go ahead

#RadMorning

good luck getting it from GDrive

Internet download manager fixes that issue

just check it for any weird corruption tho

11:43

gdrive really is like that sometimes

Alright

never had an issue with gdrive

11:45

hmm

in the meantime

11:15

Am I doing this right?

11:15

Firefox 91 ESR btw

no

11:16

[C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe] Enabled=1 MajorVersion=6 MinorVersion=1 BuildNumber=7601

11:16

like this

Thank you, it's fine now

#RadMorning

Thank you, it's fine now

did you also install it with the installer

19:26

or you just extracted ti

extracted it

i usually use the installer

19:26

I use ImSwordKing's settings

greetings from vista with microsoft edge

plus it saves discord login details

and extensions work

it takes multiple tries to open edge into a stable session

ah yes the unsupported OS message appears twice

13:38

2 of the learn more buttons go to permanently-removed.invalid while other one goes to https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/troubleshooting-tips-for-installing-and-updating-microsoft-edge-a5eceb94-c2b1-dfab-6569-e79d0250317b (edited)

i wonder if someone can port the rx 570 drivers to vista

ReShout

i wonder if someone can port the rx 570 drivers to vista

@WinDVD Any luck with your RX GPU on Vista? (edited)

Deleted User

@WinDVD Any luck with your RX GPU on Vista? (edited)

not really since the drivers you need (you cant use launch drivers because of a problem causing the gpu to eat too much power from the pcie slot potentially causing damage) so only 2017 drivers and they are missing too many functions

to be frank, the newest AMD cards that work on Vista properly i think are Rx 300 Series cards

oof

Scamdisk

to be frank, the newest AMD cards that work on Vista properly i think are Rx 300 Series cards

yep

even then, those need some modified beta drivers to work

and iirc they arent even stable with 300 series

yeah... WEI breaks

Still better than that XP Cafe driver that doesnt even have accel

i'm going to try to install the rx 570 driver on vista extended kernel. could work.

Deformisani SAS

i'm going to try to install the rx 570 driver on vista extended kernel. could work.

it will not.

21:36

i can confirm because ive tried 2016-2021 they all do not work.

21:36

all missing too many functions that aren't added yet.

ok

hgrnng... vista gdi modded to look like nt 3.1 when .. .. hgrnngn

never™️

haven't installed vista in a while

hmm yes

average vista moment

07:44

starts breaking right after you install it

skip

starts breaking right after you install it

bullshit

08:13

yeah updating this shit after a long while

skip

starts breaking right after you install it

Never happened to me

joke.executable

funny how i instantly get attacked by vista fanbois

I am not a Vista fanboy

08:37

It's a fact

08:37

Vista is rock stable

true

skip

funny how i instantly get attacked by vista fanbois

defender issue

12:21

happens on logoff actually

skip

funny how i instantly get attacked by vista fanbois

You're in the Vista channel, genius

13:21

skip

funny how i instantly get attacked by vista fanbois

I am not even a fanboy

1

big meaty claws

RayZen

I am not even a fanboy

I am a femboy though

RayZen

I am a femboy though

ayo

13:22

jk

13:22

what's the point in being a femboy?

Femboy

13:23

jk

My sole boot is actually Vista, now. My Windows 7 ISO I used with 10's Startup Repair and setup got fucked when I reinstalled Vista, which should otherwise be compatible with the same bootloaders. See a 7 ISO using 10's installer? Ruuuuun

Deformisani SAS

what's the point in being a femboy?

Trans woman but you still refer to yourself as a boy basically

RayZen

Trans woman but you still refer to yourself as a boy basically

Stop

So you wear female clothing and shit like that

docR

Stop

What

13:24

Thats not in the rules

Perhaps use another channel

docR

Stop

Only thing Doc and me agree with (edited)

I am just explaining what a femboy is

What does that have to do with this though

That and the other person was joking

13:25

You don't need to elaborate on it

Someone asked what is the purpose of being a femboy

This is Vista channel (edited)

And said jk

You're free to talk about it, I just don't think this is the channel for it is all

docR

And said jk

i said jk before i asked what's the point in being a femboy

Ohhhhh

‍♂️

Well my mistake. Still I'd move to lounge or something XD

k

Windows Vista Femboy Channel

13:27

@win32 yo

13:27

/jk

?

docR

Windows Vista Femboy Channel

Deleted User

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_lB661RBKYk

.

U Can't Hide Wats Inside

shut

We Vista users getting called out

13:29

Jokes aside

13:29

Yeah my 7 install got decimated

Deleted User

shut

I single boot Vista right now feelscringeman

docR

I single boot Vista right now feelscringeman

But Win32 let me test his 398 driver, which is amazing lol. Supposedly 473 is one function away

I main 8.1 right now because it is simply the most stable

docR

But Win32 let me test his 398 driver, which is amazing lol. Supposedly 473 is one function away

win32:

But 398 from 372 means new Space Engine, OpenGL 4.6, Pascal

rx 570 drivers when?

So it's already pepe_based

13:31

I think he said 15 functions there

4 functions...

ReShout

rx 570 drivers when?

this feels like people asking in the classic offensive discord server co when in the dev channel

We're about to have Vista RTX support feelscringeman

win32

4 functions...

docR

We're about to have Vista RTX support feelscringeman

4

win32

4 functions...

give me the drivers (oh wait i don't have vista anymore)

2022 Radeon drivers when /jk (edited)

Deleted User

2022 Radeon drivers when /jk (edited)

soon

Deleted User

2022 Radeon drivers when /jk (edited)

I'm guessing he'd start with 19.12, since those were some of the most robust 7 drivers, and support 400/500 series (RX 480/590)

19.12 would be great still

what the actual fuck are these white borders

Someone asked what is the purpose of being a femboy

Deformisani SAS

i said jk before i asked what's the point in being a femboy

Yeah

13:52

This is why it is illegal to warn me from now on troll

RayZen

Someone asked what is the purpose of being a femboy

my internet was laggy again so this was posted really late

docR

I'm guessing he'd start with 19.12, since those were some of the most robust 7 drivers, and support 400/500 series (RX 480/590)

i actually had less luck with 19.12 compared to latest driver

14:05

19.12 crashed occasionally and didn't support certain emulators (i forgot which one, i think RPCS3?) so i updated to latest and it worked fine after

14:05

though that was awhile ago it could have been a bad install

i'm fine with a amd driver as long as sleeping doesn't make the whole system commit not coming back from sleep

14:12

looks at the driver MS keeps installing for some reason on NT10

14:14

welp time to look around for a dll

difxapi.dll

506.88 KB

Scamdisk

i'm fine with a amd driver as long as sleeping doesn't make the whole system commit not coming back from sleep

19.12

armcord + goosemod =

15:00

themed discord on vista

yes

15:11

can someone just make a regular discord client on the latest electron and make it 32 bit or 64 bit?

15:11

and make it support clientmods?

1050ti driver?

docR

I'm guessing he'd start with 19.12, since those were some of the most robust 7 drivers, and support 400/500 series (RX 480/590)

and zen series APUs also work it on with mods

docR

But 398 from 372 means new Space Engine, OpenGL 4.6, Pascal

wonder how well it will actually work on pascal

15:47

pascal on vista would be HOT

please 1050ti vista

RayZen

pascal on vista would be HOT

15:55

Picture by stubertville

E2

Click to see attachment 🖼️

a proper pascal on vista

16:04

with direct3d and shit

16:04

and stable (edited)

Are you sure if that's not the case?

aside from WEI/WinSAT been a bitch and some minor graphical glitches, catalyst 15.6 seems to be stable

RayZen

with direct3d and shit

It already is

16:18

He played Crisis maxed out on it

16:19

With any luck, we'll be up to 473 in z few weeks

16:19

Win32 wants to hold releasing until its well into the 400s

is the net problem fixed?

.net 4.6.1 works

because this

Now 473..... That'll mean RTX 30 series support. But realistically, I wouldn't go above a 1080 ti. Maybe a 3070, but I'd say 2080 ti at the very most. Even the very best Ivy CPU will be bottlenecked if you go insane lol

ImSwordQueen

because this

Maybe it's that application? 4.6.1 is perfectly fine

more net apps are facing that issue

List them in win32s server

idk if your updated extended kernel fixed it

16:22

i already did

In the program art category

16:22

Ah

for some of them

I'll check them out later

16:22

Are these applications 32 bit?

i believe i only listed one

16:22

probably

net 32-bit

16:23

me waiting for the official discord client to work on vista

Armcord

i would love to use the official thing

16:24

even if i break tos with it

ImSwordQueen

me waiting for the official discord client to work on vista

The world will be switched over to ARM before that happens feelscringeman

i mean

16:25

i believe it didn't complain about functions anymore

16:25

but i forgor if i retested it

16:25

so fuck it

16:25

time to check

16:25

on my lappy as i can't restart on vista because

16:25

i'm doing some arson on main

Lol

also on my vista laptop office 2010 auto-kms crashes now

16:28

it's mostly a 32 bit issue that too

16:29

ok update.exe commits

16:29

CLR error: 800004005

16:30

meanwhile the main discord.exe just stops working

docR

It already is

on 398 yeah

docR

Now 473..... That'll mean RTX 30 series support. But realistically, I wouldn't go above a 1080 ti. Maybe a 3070, but I'd say 2080 ti at the very most. Even the very best Ivy CPU will be bottlenecked if you go insane lol

now we just need intel hd graphics and amd radeon

16:32

after that

ImSwordQueen

i'm doing some arson on main

that background...

what about it? troll

i sure saw it before

i mean probably

i actually remember using it before

RayZen

after that

You're drifting away from me

16:35

alec baldwin but young

RayZen

i sure saw it before

ok yup found it

docR

Now 473..... That'll mean RTX 30 series support. But realistically, I wouldn't go above a 1080 ti. Maybe a 3070, but I'd say 2080 ti at the very most. Even the very best Ivy CPU will be bottlenecked if you go insane lol

why limit to ivy and not ryzen lol

17:07

100% stable other than usb 3 drivers

because

17:07

ayyyyyyyyyymd

WinDVD

100% stable other than usb 3 drivers

Those seem to impact it pretty hard. But honestly fixing Ryzen might be a better idea than drift lol. What do you think? @win32

17:14

Sounds less hard, anyway

actually i managed to get it stable once by using my non UEFI aware 8600 GT

17:15

not sure why

Watch AMD become the Vista go to like 2013 lol @arialgirl

17:15

Back when I used to hound you asking if this or that supported Vista

WinDVD

not sure why

Newer Nvidia cards call on unsupported instructions

17:16

Causes it to flip out

my main gpu is RX480

The driver will need to be patched

so i was rocking basic driver until i slapped my old 8600 gt in there

17:16

i think i got up to like 8h runtime with that

WinDVD

13 hours uptime, im gonna end the test here since using a GPU from 2007 is quite limiting lol

yep 13 hours

Very low at present. The ability to convert Windows 10 drivers has yet to be determined.

docR

Watch AMD become the Vista go to like 2013 lol @arialgirl

fixing ryzen is a possibility

18:22

the main issue with that is ryzen + a newer nvidia gpu

18:22

the combination causes bugs with the usb3 controller

18:23

there is also another potential solution, a low level kvm layer to mask the issues

welp it's time for the sequel

arialgirl

the main issue with that is ryzen + a newer nvidia gpu

and apparently new amd gpu with no drivers

what a normal vista install

21:31

i hope nothing happens to it

21:31

aero too

1

this is so fusterarating i have a divices working for vista on a 5 gen intel cpu i have no network and i can not get graficks to work with INF moding this just makes me mad

nothing bad is going to happen to that vm

The Cubis

this is so fusterarating i have a divices working for vista on a 5 gen intel cpu i have no network and i can not get graficks to work with INF moding this just makes me mad

if you are above haswell network drivers are the least of your problems

ImSwordQueen

if you are above haswell network drivers are the least of your problems

if i get network and get some grafricks with arow then evrything is working

you are using vista on haswell+

21:44

everything working is not possible

21:45

currently

grafrick?

oofer_dww

grafrick?

graphics

time to start hell

i get error code 39 with my wifi card in divice manger

ok this doesn't look awful

why the shutdown arrow like that

Because it's the wrong theme

also the all programs font is funny

With the wrong buttons

23:38

This is the whole thing

23:39

It's not yet finished

23:39

As it still looks sex

23:40

Also i realized

23:40

That windows makes the wallpaper look very sus

ImSwordQueen

As it still looks sex

sex as a ui

ImSwordQueen

This is the whole thing

win 7 skinned to be vista?

look at channel name

Deformisani SAS

win 7 skinned to be vista?

no

ImSwordQueen

if you are above haswell network drivers are the least of your problems

5th gen is the worst for vista

ImSwordQueen

if you are above haswell network drivers are the least of your problems

yeah network drivers are typically not a problem, especially if you are on realtek

DAMN VISTA CHAN BE SMOKING A FAT BLUNT THO

skip turned on moment

14:03

death

I once made Windows 7 as virus infected as possible and made it look so ugly

who wants it dm me

not me, i pirate windoez

WinDVD

who wants it dm me

It's nonslp

11:52

It's basically non transferable

so it wont work?

If it's not on that machine no

damn

ImSwordQueen

It's nonslp

it says its non system locked

12:32

"similar to retail"

I thought it was the opposite

12:32

Huh

oofer_dww

not me, i pirate windoez

i use cmd to activate windows

and i do exactly that

14:15

i have win7 pro and ent keys memorized along with two kms servers for it

how do you have 2 25 digit keys memorized

its not that hard

14:21

i even memorize game keys

14:21

such as

14:21

or

how did you tipe that in 0.1 picoseconds

14:21

type*

i have a good memory lolz

14:21

also

14:21

not 0.1 picoseconds

and good keyboard speed ig

this is my normal type speed

wtf

14:22

hax

nah

14:22

do you know why i memorized these keys?

to use them i assume

so i didnt have to constantly look at a fucking txt file when installing the games for my repack

thats not that much effort LOL

14:23

ctrl c ctrl v

well the installer blacks out the rest of the screen

14:23

so my typing is much faster than ctrl c ctrl v

damn

i also have to enter multiplayer keys that i own(so i will not write them here) when i reinstall the games

14:24

and alt tab or anything doesnt work

14:24

game window is always on top

14:24

neither does ctrl c ctrl v

14:24

and entering them in registry doesnt always work

imagine just having a reg key file that just instantly sets all the keys

like i said

14:25

earlier game version which has some of my favorite servers dont work this way

14:25

(1.41)

14:25

only 1.51 and 1.51b do

why dont they update

14:25

is it better?

because 1.51 added unnecessary shit

14:25

like a lot

cant you just not use it

they have a 1.51 server too but no one plays on there

14:26

cant

14:26

cgame and game dlls are different

damn

also #games

effort but ok

The Cubis

no gpu drivers be like

WinDVD

no gpu drivers be like

Yep

y tho

why not

The Cubis

Yep

no drivers for m260?

05:49

damn only 7 drivers

Deleted User

damn only 7 drivers

Mhm

that gpu is from like 2013

Yep

you would rather use vista with no drivers than 7

05:53

that's some dedication

05:53

also on a 5th gen intel

05:54

05:55

i get it vista fanbois go far but this is just not practical

05:56

honestly vista on 5th gen is absolutely horrible and the os will die on you completely because its badly coded (edited)

05:56

you should just use 7 or higher

Fun fack i have no problems

wdym no problems

05:59

you dont even have drivers

Only driver problems

skip

wdym no problems

never had problems with vista

05:59

worked just fine for me

if you were to get past driver problems you get to this issue called 'drift' where over the span of a few months the os slowly creeps into a non working state

both on period correct hardware and on newer hardware

06:00

+ i'm amd user

06:00

therefore i suffer less

skip

if you were to get past driver problems you get to this issue called 'drift' where over the span of a few months the os slowly creeps into a non working state

its a killer bug on 4th gen and later

anyways gonna go to school

RayZen

never had problems with vista

doesnt change that vista has horrible drift on 4th and 5th gen (edited)

06:01

on amd its more workable but still highly unstable

06:01

like it will crash after some hours of uptime

skip

if you were to get past driver problems you get to this issue called 'drift' where over the span of a few months the os slowly creeps into a non working state

he has a 6003 patch

what about it

6003 doesnt stop drift only corruption

oh

Cubis said it works for him

im just saying its not a very usable experience

Deleted User

Cubis said it works for him

Just need to get graficks working

he doesn't give a fuck apparently

and if you wanted to flex with it like most ~~vista users~~ kids it would only be laughable (edited)

your os is pretty unusable for anything other than web browsing without gpug drivers

The Cubis

Just need to get graficks working

if you were on haswell you would at least have XP drivers

WinDVD

if you were on haswell you would at least have XP drivers

Why not Vista drivers with them

Deleted User

Why not Vista drivers with them

i assume intel knew of the problems with haswell and just didnt bother for vista

Like, non WDDM driver works on Vista/7

yes, but no aero and only D3D 9 (not ex)

06:06

and opengl and such

his best bet is installing 7 and theming it to look like vista

Dose the 4gen graficks driver work for 5gen?

if he wants vista so much

The Cubis

Dose the 4gen graficks driver work for 5gen?

no

06:07

u got no drivers

skip

u got no drivers

ehh i bet his amd gpu could be sorted

Thats fine

switchable graphics are kinda paint

06:07

pain*

15.x amd drivers work on vista with some effort

without integrated drivers u wont get a bunch of functions

06:08

and worse battery life?

scamdisk did it

skip

and worse battery life?

i always have my laptop plugged in lmfao

06:08

and what functions?

WinDVD

15.x amd drivers work on vista with some effort

Then im going to have hardwhare acceleration so it is fine

i cant speak for all laptops but on mine brightness controls dont work

06:08

without igpu drivers

thats a bit strange but eh

skip

i cant speak for all laptops but on mine brightness controls dont work

Pfffff brighnes controls just a bonus (edited)

it would be stuck on a dim brightness level

Even bether

for me at least

06:09

ok

06:09

still tho 7 would be a much more usable experience

i dont think hes installing it to main it lmfao

do you think he has some form of dualboot

06:10

i highly doubt it

i did the same thing with my ryzen system

06:10

vista + 7 + 10

if i know windows kids well they love to install vista as a main and flex about it to everyone on discord

yeah vista on ryzen is too unstable for that (funny crashing usb3 drivers)

amazeing

WinDVD

i dont think hes installing it to main it lmfao

mhm only vista on that disk

see

but why

he wants to main it

no

i assume you have a second pc right?

WinDVD

but why

because VISTA

06:12

and flexing to fellow windows kids

06:12

on the xp discord

WinDVD

i assume you have a second pc right?

yep a 3 more laptops and one ryzen pc

i figured as much

WinDVD

your os is pretty unusable for anything other than web browsing without gpug drivers

i browsed firefox on IGPU... the latest firefox

skip

on the xp discord

let the guy have fun with his secondary laptop lmfao

ok

@WinDVD this is my driver padge https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-r7-series/amd-radeon-r7-200-series/amd-radeon-r7-m260x

anyone wanna connect to this pc?

Deformisani SAS

i browsed firefox on IGPU... the latest firefox

yep, i did the same thing with 2006 igpu as well lmfao

06:13

i meant with no drivers

i had no igpu drivers for vista

06:13

and it was running fine

yeah thats what im saying

06:13

you can only browse the web and such with basic driver

The Cubis

@WinDVD this is my driver padge https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-r7-series/amd-radeon-r7-200-series/amd-radeon-r7-m260x

this ^^

Deformisani SAS

anyone wanna connect to this pc?

why would i

Deformisani SAS

anyone wanna connect to this pc?

if i had more than 10kbps sure

Deformisani SAS

anyone wanna connect to this pc?

i wuld if i whasent in shool

The Cubis

@WinDVD this is my driver padge https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/amd-radeon-r7-series/amd-radeon-r7-200-series/amd-radeon-r7-m260x

yeah the way to get driver working is unofficial

The Cubis

i wuld if i whasent in shool

ok

WinDVD

yeah the way to get driver working is unofficial

dont care if its working greate!

someone connect to my pc rn plz lmao

The Cubis

dont care if its working greate!

you found vista drivers?

06:15

nevermind

06:15

i read that wrong

1

gah damn i lost my class during pe

06:15

where the fuck are they

06:15

i hate pe

i love PE

pe isnt bad

i have extra englich right now

06:15

sadge

although the smell in the rooms where you switch your clothes and shit smells terrible

WinDVD

you found vista drivers?

can i ping you when im home so you can help me?

sure why not

06:16

might be afk depending on when that is though lmfao

yee see you in a bit!

alright there they are

@WinDVD just a question do we need to use a older driver?

06:20

(that is for win7)

Deleted User

Cubis said it works for him

Bokee standing up for me damn

The Cubis

@WinDVD just a question do we need to use a older driver?

yes we arent using those

WinDVD

yes we arent using those

okay! i have those on the vista laptop alredy (edited)

06:26

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/86068/intel-dual-band-wirelessac-8260/downloads.html is this wifi card just to new for vista?

Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260 Downloads, Drivers and Software |...

Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260 - Download supporting resources inclusive drivers, software, bios, and firmware updates.

The Cubis

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/86068/intel-dual-band-wirelessac-8260/downloads.html is this wifi card just to new for vista?

yep

06:27

no way to get that working on vista afaik

06:28

not even my 2014 intel wifi works for vista

f you intel

i dont blame em lol

is it ms once for all?

?

pov his entire laptop is incompatible with vista

is microsft to blame

no

people just hated vista

06:29

so manufacturers didnt bother

intel's haswell and newer CPU's (like your broadwell one) shipped with these wifi cards

now microsoft may be to blame as to why vista got hated

haswell and broadwell dont work well on vista so why make the wifi work on vista

so yes maybe microsoft is to blame after all

skip

now microsoft may be to blame as to why vista got hated

yep, buggy release killed it

06:30

not to mention features people didnt like

this is all wifi cards i have on hand

cant read a single lable

06:31

label

wow bro collects em like pokemon cards

WinDVD

cant read a single lable

o you are right

06:31

whait

skip

wow bro collects em like pokemon cards

i only have like 2 mini pcie wifi cards lol

06:31

and both are in use

06:31

rest are USB

this all my wifi cards (edited)

still like 240p

i will retackte the picktures at home...

tbh anything with "intel dual band" in the name is probably not vista compatible

06:33

realtek was good about old os driver support

06:33

so if you have a realtek card it may work

then im stuck with a 2.4ghz usb adpter..... (edited)

i only use 2.4ghz anyway

i gues that is fine

never really needed 5.0

realtek or atheros should be good

06:34

and breadcom

it is just bad atena range on it but it is fine for youtube i gues

skip

and breadcom

breadcrumb

lmao

06:35

broadcum

WinDVD

yep

time to make the driver from scratch lmao

The Cubis

time to make the driver from scratch lmao

i mean funny fact: there is an MS-DOS driver

06:36

so maybe it would work on 9x based OS lmfao

WinDVD

so maybe it would work on 9x based OS lmfao

but evrything els wuld not work

having functional video drivers is overrated

vbemp for vista ?

06:37

i mean i think the latest it works on is xp lol

WinDVD

having functional video drivers is overrated

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bhc_NwT1wstunwXjtDSC6NmaIUC48ed4/view?usp=drivesdk this is me installing the intel driver

20220908_210542.mp4

mans giving me a google drive link to watch a video

06:37

the thing is

06:38

i have 10 KB/s internet right now

06:38

i can barely load web pages, let alone video

oo sorry

its fine lmao

06:38

i should have better internet when the mail comes tmr

i can explain the vidio the driver installs suscesfoly but gives error code 39 affter rebot

06:39

and that vidio profs that im not using a vm

The Cubis

i can explain the vidio the driver installs suscesfoly but gives error code 39 affter rebot

error 39 is because the video driver isnt compatible at all

06:39

missing functions and stuff

u might have a better experience with a vm lmao

06:39

does drift occur in vm?

ehhh vmware drivers for vista are kinda bad

WinDVD

error 39 is because the video driver isnt compatible at all

just saying the driver is corupt

even on my decent gaming pc aero lags

06:40

vmware

yep

The Cubis

just saying the driver is corupt

yep it wont work on vista

(only canged the nt6.1 to nt6.0 in the driver inf) (edited)

i know this because i went thru the same task a year ago

oo

different model same problem

06:42

ximonite found ethernet drivers for me though

i need to finde my

wifi may be a nogo, but ethernet could work

bro just install 7

if you have it

skip

bro just install 7

no

06:43

he has 3 other laptops and a ryzen pc

06:43

he doesnt need 7

win7 is trach

this is winclient's child isnt it

skip

this is winclient's child isnt it

true story

WinDVD

he has 3 other laptops and a ryzen pc

my ryzen pc runs this website in a linux vm right now https://panel.thecubis.xyz (edited)

06:45

no flex (edited)

k

Pterodactyl Software my favorite

WinDVD

Pterodactyl Software my favorite

yep!

WinDVD

Pterodactyl Software my favorite

exploits

WinDVD

exploits

i shuld be fine runing the latest

WinDVD

ximonite found ethernet drivers for me though

this is my ethernet driver https://www.driveridentifier.com/scan/download.php/download/2207334851/B02CEA744D844D46926990AB8DE5DF49/PCI%5CVEN_8086%26DEV_15A2%26SUBSYS_2216103C

Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (3) I218-LM Driver - Free Download Fo...

This page contains the driver installation download for Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (3) I218-LM in supported models (HP EliteBook 840 G2) that are running a supported operating system.

The Cubis

this is my ethernet driver https://www.driveridentifier.com/scan/download.php/download/2207334851/B02CEA744D844D46926990AB8DE5DF49/PCI%5CVEN_8086%26DEV_15A2%26SUBSYS_2216103C

they only have for win7 if i rember right

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834204256729825310/836887241732653086/Server2008_E1D.7z

06:51

this driver should work

let me try at home

06:51

later

06:53

is it posebole to get this dock working? https://www.ebay.com/itm/353439344252

GENUINE HP 2013 UltraSlim Docking Station - LAN VGA 2x Display Port...

HP 2013 UltraSlim Docking Station - 65W. Quickly and easily expand your display, network, and device connectivity to customise an always-ready workspace with the HP 2013 UltraSlim Docking Station (model # D9Y19AV).

06:53

i have that at home

The Cubis

Bokee standing up for me damn

Real reason I bought an Ivy Bridge system with a 2012 GPU is this exact reason

06:54

Vista runs flawlessly on it

oooooo

The Cubis

is it posebole to get this dock working? https://www.ebay.com/itm/353439344252

this still ^^

The Cubis

is it posebole to get this dock working? https://www.ebay.com/itm/353439344252

do you knwo @skip

isk

07:01

idk*

The Cubis

is it posebole to get this dock working? https://www.ebay.com/itm/353439344252

only if it supports your laptop

WinDVD

only if it supports your laptop

it works greate with win7 and 8.1 and 10

my question is how does it connect to your laptop?

WinDVD

my question is how does it connect to your laptop?

this big conector

and your laptop has this i assume

yep

could work maybe not

07:07

i doubt it will give you anything like wifi but eh

it schuld work beckuse the ethernet port is just passtrou

yeah i doubt they have a second ethernet controller on that dock

07:07

there would be no point

yee

WinDVD

could work maybe not

if it work then i culd download stuff buy using ethernet and use the usb adpater in bed for ex

you dont need a dock for ethernet tho

07:20

that image shows an ethernet port right there

but i can charge the computer the same time when using ethernet

you cant normally?

just more nice to have evrything in the dock

WinDVD

you cant normally?

i can

07:20

normally

my laptop has an ethernet port on the back lol

lol

07:21

that laptop have vga and dp

07:21

on it

07:21

the dock have 2dp and one vga

07:22

so that is nice

i mean if you think you need it go ahead i guess lmao

WinDVD

i mean if you think you need it go ahead i guess lmao

lmao using a dp to vga adapter enywhys lmao (edited)

The Cubis

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/86068/intel-dual-band-wirelessac-8260/downloads.html is this wifi card just to new for vista?

goign to remvove this card from the laptop when im home

@Scamdisk can you help me with a amd driver to work in vista?

The Cubis

@Scamdisk can you help me with a amd driver to work in vista?

that won't work on exkernel

17:35

atleast i don't think so

but i moded the 15.6 beta driver

It should work, with the latest ext kernel ver that is

17:42

http://ximonite.com/win32/download.html

meby have old kernel then

Scamdisk

It should work, with the latest ext kernel ver that is

How do i know if it updated sucsefoly?

18:04

Im mad it installs suscesfoly but then give me error code 43 affter reboot

Scamdisk

It should work, with the latest ext kernel ver that is

i figerd it out I NEED DGPU drivers

so sad #cube sad (edited)

This is beckuse of my intel moded driver right?

yes

11:22

your laptop is too new and there is no broadwell gpu drivers

11:22

for vista

Pro tip: Don't use Vista on Broadwell

18:04

Don't even look at Vista on 4th gen+

18:04

Until that drift shit is gone, Drifta is the boogeyman

The Cubis

This is beckuse of my intel moded driver right?

World Famous bsod error....

docR

Until that drift shit is gone, Drifta is the boogeyman

that vas beckuse of intels igpu drivers

The Cubis

that vas beckuse of intels igpu drivers

i don't think i can type like you even if i tried

docR

Don't even look at Vista on 4th gen+

I know a person who has used Vista on 11th gen Intel without any problems

RayZen

I know a person who has used Vista on 11th gen Intel without any problems

RayZen

I know a person who has used Vista on 11th gen Intel without any problems

source?

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

source?

VictorTheVictor, he's on r/windowsxp discord server

r/windowsxp? immediately discarded

Discarded

13:52

11th uses a similar clock circuit as 4th

13:52

Unless Win32 secretly addressed the drift issue, and only gave it to folks on the XP server, Vista is going to drift @win32

13:53

With his love for that server, I don't think that's provable

Could also be that it was a higher end therefore was not problematic (or not as much)

Doesn't work like that

15:48

If they reboot enough, they'll observe failed services at startup, often not a startup at all

15:48

As well as broken directx with certain display drivers

15:49

If build 6002 or lower, not server 2008 updates at 6003, registry corruption

15:49

Enough to eventually render the system unbootable

15:49

6003's HAL addressed that

15:50

But it still drifts

15:50

I love Vista, and I do use it. But.... Until/if Vista gets drift correction, use themed 7 or 8.x on that hardware

15:50

Because there is no Vista on 4th gen or greater, there's only Drifta

15:51

Vista is awesome, Drifta is not

15:51

Don't use it

15:51

Or do use it. Just don't complain about how turbulent it is lol

15:52

I had to use Drifta for months before. My board hung at Completing Installation with 7 and 8.1. I about tore my hair out with that thing

15:53

It tore its own hair out, because the registry eventually corrupted and rendered itself unbootable lol

I LOVE DRIFTA!!!

docR

If they reboot enough, they'll observe failed services at startup, often not a startup at all

that didn't happen to him

17:50

which is weird

must've won the silicon lottery

RayZen

VictorTheVictor, he's on r/windowsxp discord server

victorthevictor is horny genshin player on r/windowsxp

vista

oofer_dww

victorthevictor is horny genshin player on r/windowsxp

This dude? he seems normal to me

18:13

He is on Windows XP Vista 7 fans server

oofer_dww

victorthevictor is horny genshin player on r/windowsxp

never seemed horny to me

same, he always sticked to the topic, so idgaf

RaduTek

never seemed horny to me

skip and rayzen troll for reference

18:34

i bet he doesnt do it anymore

oh my victors

if he can provide proof then i'll believe it

19:34

@RayZen can you link the thread and any proof of this person running vista "just fine" on 11th gen intel?

Yeah this requires some proof

19:36

And just booting it a few times isn't enough

arialgirl

@RayZen can you link the thread and any proof of this person running vista "just fine" on 11th gen intel?

you can look in his older messages on r/windowsxp

RayZen

you can look in his older messages on r/windowsxp

show them to me

20:05

20:06

thats more than enough evidence of drift/corruption for me to call this a lie

20:06

sorry

20:06

now to leave that discord, again

RayZen

that didn't happen to him

you lied

anyway, honestly if we can completely fix nvidia drivers on vista, ryzen is a possibility, as the only issue is a conflict between newer nv drivers and usb3 on that platform

20:09

there isnt any drift

arialgirl

thats more than enough evidence of drift/corruption for me to call this a lie

Seconded

arialgirl

there isnt any drift

Yep. A Ryzen fix certainly seems palpable

for all we know, the drift fix could involve massive amounts of reverse engineering to the kernel, while fixing nvidia's drivers, a task indeed, is far more plausible (edited)

I never said there were no drift issues

RayZen

I know a person who has used Vista on 11th gen Intel without any problems

you did

20:18

"without any problems"

20:18

drift issue = problem (edited)

20:18

a big, big fucking problem at that

20:19

as someone who's tested vista on a platform like that

20:19

anyway, let's move on

arialgirl

anyway, honestly if we can completely fix nvidia drivers on vista, ryzen is a possibility, as the only issue is a conflict between newer nv drivers and usb3 on that platform

its not just nvidia drivers though

what else?

20:21

since you've done tests

the basic display driver does it too

20:21

on my RX 480

but it doesn't happen on your old non-uefi card?

nope

hmmm, then the issue might be a bit more perplexing

at least it didnt then

20:22

maybe if i retested it would crash but who knows

arialgirl

thats more than enough evidence of drift/corruption for me to call this a lie

Guess some people have the corruption and some not

20:26

Cubis does not

corruption was solved in 6003

Deleted User

Cubis does not

he hasnt used it long enough to know for sure

20:27

(if you mean drift)

Daniel7689 used Vista on Skylake (edited)

20:28

He had drifting but it was usable

not as usable as say windows 7 or something lmfao

20:29

if you have haswell or newer dont bother with vista unless its for testing/boredom

That's why I'm on Ivy Bridge

ivy is best bet

daniel7689 man has big endurance for drift

or sandy if you want lower cost

he reboots until he gets that one perfect boot

20:30

honestly

oofer_dww

he reboots until he gets that one perfect boot

you could always manually start services until they work lmfa

xeon equivalent of ivy is pretty good for vista

indeed

20:30

no igpu though

fuck igpu

20:30

i hate them

no its useful lmfao

useful to waste power

literally prevented me from using the video card in a laptop

thats a laptop moment though

igpu is completely useless on a desktop

20:31

if you plug your video cable into igpu port

20:31

thats just a waste of the system

ehhh it woulda saved me a lot of time unbricking my RX 480

WinDVD

or sandy if you want lower cost

My desktop costed 250 euros but I upgraded a lot of parts (Case, PSU, DVD RW, SSD, HDD and GPU fan)

and its nice for more monitors

no it isnt

Deleted User

My desktop costed 250 euros but I upgraded a lot of parts (Case, PSU, DVD RW, SSD, HDD and GPU fan)

not bad

im not going to give 3gb ram

20:32

for some fucking igpu

Now it is more like 280 euros

WinDVD

not bad

NO

because it decided to bypass nvidia like always

oofer_dww

im not going to give 3gb ram

you can set it to like 256mb lmfao

It was 125 euros when bought

20:32

280 at this point

you still dont get it

20:32

why use an igpu

20:33

when you have a dgpu

assuming you have a dgpu

WinDVD

ehhh it woulda saved me a lot of time unbricking my RX 480

Stop flashing sketchy bioses on it

what if your gpu fails

20:33

then you have nothing

i have 970

20:33

if my gpu fails

cant get any work done

im still not going to use that fucking igpu

ImSwordQueen

Stop flashing sketchy bioses on it

For Intel I can't on my slptop

i can buy a cheap gt 710 and it'll be better

Literally

ImSwordQueen

Stop flashing sketchy bioses on it

i have a flash clip im fine lmfao

You are in a discord server

oofer_dww

i can buy a cheap gt 710 and it'll be better

that takes time

For technology

20:33

Don't you think everyone here has a spare graphics card

no

better than not being able to play fucking 2005 game above 25fps

not everyone does lmfao

Unless you live in a terraria house

ImSwordQueen

Don't you think everyone here has a spare graphics card

I got a Radeon X550 now LOL

oofer_dww

better than not being able to play fucking 2005 game above 25fps

to be fair i gamed on HD 2000 for a long time

20:34

it was fine enough

and guess what i tried to game on this intel hd 4000 here

but my desktop has Intel HD 2500 integrated and I have 12GB RAM dual channel

sure nothing crazy but it could play minecraft at 60fps and simpler games

call of duty 2 runs at 7 fps when there is smoke on medium settings

oofer_dww

and guess what i tried to game on this intel hd 4000 here

Half life 2

even half-life 2 lags

that isnt normal lmfao

it lags more with HDR and guess what

oofer_dww

even half-life 2 lags

Steam or retail?

unless you are running 4k lool

the recompiled maps for HL2 actually need HDR

20:35

or they look fullbright

WinDVD

unless you are running 4k lool

Steam version*

i used both steam and 2707

retail is best

^^^^^

(2707 is 2006 build)

What about 2004 build

not playing beta build smh my head!!!!!!

and 2707 is better than retail what are you on

you get less funny bug

2187 has outdated shaderapi even

20:37

please study source engine leak before you say this shit again

damn bruh

i even tried 64-bit half life 2

20:37

2602

Go to source school please

go to betawiki and source school please

go to discord moderator academy

Wasn't beta school?

20:38

betawiki school

20:38

ots rea;

check your vid

its real

not betawiki school, not real

20:38

i ran this 2010 build of half life 2

20:38

bruh

20:39

maps are fullbright without dxlevel 95 and mat hdr L2

with the power of inspect element anything is possible

this is when they ported HL2 to orange box engine

20:39

houston, tx?

wait no

charter school?

let me correct that

bruh

oofer_dww

charter school?

*spectrum school

20:40

@docR

oofer_dww

2602

10/10

betajyst be on

he woke up just to reply to that

win32

*spectrum school

I didn't attend, but they still sent me a certificate for completion regardless

RayZen

I never said there were no drift issues

You did

arialgirl

a big, big fucking problem at that

The biggest I've ever observed

WinDVD

if you have haswell or newer dont bother with vista unless its for testing/boredom

^

ImSwordQueen

Don't you think everyone here has a spare graphics card

i don't think half of my graphics cards qualified as graphics cards after 2014

docR

You did

I did not

05:50

I never said exactly that were no drift issues

05:51

I said that it was stable enough

05:51

As in that way "no problem"

You meant that were no problems (edited)

05:52

At the start

05:52

From the messages you sent

I said as it was stable enough

05:53

I see that it has issues already

RayZen

I never said exactly that were no drift issues

No problems would imply no drift. Drift happens to be the biggest problem you can encounter using Vista, mate

RayZen

that didn't happen to him

and he said it didnt happen to him

what is happening here

idk tbh

barisberat

what is happening here

You lied

RayZen

I said as it was stable enough

drift != stable

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

You lied

no im not a liar

13:36

its just a question

13:36

get that out of your mind

Liar

bastards on fire

Okay that's enough

07:14

Discontinue this conversation

07:14

That goes to everyone. No further engagement on this one

07:14

(edited)

https://tenor.com/u9fs.gif

Good reference XD

07:16

Listen to Frank and STOP

⏰

i too agree

docR

(edited)

Alto

docR

Okay that's enough

moderator moderating by telling an already over conversation to end

I highly doubt that would've been the end of it lol

docR

I highly doubt that would've been the end of it lol

Nah it ended already

20:38

Before you said that

Good

is there a kms server for kms SKUs for vista

well the msguides one seems to work for vista too

16:13

the thing is rather finding km- oh wait enterprise defaults to a kms key already

16:14

trol it worked

VMware icon in tray is a welcome sight

16:32

Else it would drift away from you

16:32

Like those Mac Pros on wheels

Drifting to a flea market near you....

docR

Like those Mac Pros on wheels

Like flower pot on wheels (GTA San Andreas vehicle)

Deleted User

Like flower pot on wheels (GTA San Andreas vehicle)

Ah yes, the RC cam (edited)

can i install windows vista on my 3 gen ryzen cpu?

10:52

or is it JUST TO NEW like 5 gen

You can try

10:57

If you got the lucky board it will work

i have a b550 with no ps/2 ports

10:59

so i dont think i will work

11:00

and i just relised that my amd radeon rx 570 is just to new

The Cubis

and i just relised that my amd radeon rx 570 is just to new

i have done it before

14:02

you can install ryzen on 3rd gen with no PS/2

14:03

only issue is that the USB 3 drivers cause random bsod (except for certain circumstances but still) and no video drivers (yet) for RX4xx and RX5xx

14:04

so its somewhat usable but you dont get any 3D

14:04

7 is easy to do though

WinDVD

7 is easy to do though

have 7

WinDVD

only issue is that the USB 3 drivers cause random bsod (except for certain circumstances but still) and no video drivers (yet) for RX4xx and RX5xx

how cares a bout a bsod on a 14 yer old os (not me) (edited)

The Cubis

how cares a bout a bsod on a 14 yer old os (not me) (edited)

Use the latest exkernel iso it has USB 3 drivers

14:51

and if it has 7E bsod just either use Debugging Mode or Legacy Boot

WinDVD

Use the latest exkernel iso it has USB 3 drivers

it is no ida have no graficks

basic display driver works for basic browsing and testing but thats about it

14:52

nothing 3D

dose youtube work?

yes

with fierfox

14:53

is this ethernet controler supported by vista? PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_86771043&REV_15

yes

14:53

i have the same one

DAMn

14:53

installing vista now

14:54

lol

WinDVD

Use the latest exkernel iso it has USB 3 drivers

whare do i finde the iso btw

it should be in pins

o txh

also if you need 3D i think its possible with DirectX WARP

14:54

pretty much software rendering

14:54

so it will be slow but better than nothing

thats fine

WinDVD

so it will be slow but better than nothing

yep

WinDVD

i have the same one

is that driver in the iso?

The Cubis

is that driver in the iso?

no

14:55

but its super easy to find

14:56

realtek made drivers for vista till 2017 iirc

okay and the usb drivers work for my b550 chipset?

they should

vista booting on B550 may be a gamble though

14:56

depends on your boards bios version

14:57

this is for D3D WARP btw

dxcpl.exe

240.45 KB

WinDVD

depends on your boards bios version

it is a asus prime b550-plus mb

i cant tell you if it will work

14:57

you just gotta try it

its a pretty recent bios but should work

if it works then im making history lol (edited)

14:59

@WinDVD i dont need to do enything with the iso right?

The Cubis

@WinDVD i dont need to do enything with the iso right?

no

15:00

use legacy boot mode if possible

WinDVD

use legacy boot mode if possible

using win7 in legacy right now

its possible to use non CSM but it caused BSOD for me

WinDVD

its possible to use non CSM but it caused BSOD for me

then i only have UEFI mode

15:02

i think

15:02

not sure

no you have CSM

15:02

every BX50 board does

15:02

(afaik)

my B450 has CSM

but if i diable CSM then lagacy support disabels tho i think

so does mine

and Windows 7 support apparently

The Cubis

but if i diable CSM then lagacy support disabels tho i think

no i meant keep CSM on

I should try one day to install 7

WinDVD

no i meant keep CSM on

OOO

remove the NVMe drive and HDD and connect a puny laptop drive

but why

15:04

windows 7 nvme would be epic troll

im using the 1809 backrund walpaper on win7 that must be iligal

but I don't want to delete my existing installs

@WinDVD im a going to have sound tho?

The Cubis

@WinDVD im a going to have sound tho?

yes since realtek also makes the sound for B550

15:07

at least most boards

i think asus alwhys use realtek for sound

then you have sound drivers

most computers have Realtek audio codecs

shuld i preload the ethernet driver on the usb?

some have IDT whatever (that used to be Analog Devices' SoundMAX), CMedia or VIA

15:09

but much rarer

The Cubis

shuld i preload the ethernet driver on the usb?

(in a zip file) (edited)

The Cubis

shuld i preload the ethernet driver on the usb?

yes

The Cubis

(in a zip file) (edited)

extracted

WinDVD

this is for D3D WARP btw

preloading this to then

saves you the chore of using Windows' built-in extractor

WinDVD

i have the same one

can you send driver only finde for 7

15:11

??

gimme a sec

The Cubis

can you send driver only finde for 7

https://www.realtek.com/en/directly-download?downloadid=14b5fd6669649b5c989c88e03978ba0f

WinDVD

https://www.realtek.com/en/directly-download?downloadid=14b5fd6669649b5c989c88e03978ba0f

it dose not download

The Cubis

it dose not download

go to https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/network-interface-controllers-10-100-1000m-gigabit-ethernet-pci-express-software and choose "Vista and WinServer 2008 Auto Installation Program"

WinDVD

go to https://www.realtek.com/en/component/zoo/category/network-interface-controllers-10-100-1000m-gigabit-ethernet-pci-express-software and choose "Vista and WinServer 2008 Auto Installation Program"

okay

15:16

how do i do this?

15:17

nvm im just dumb

mafs

bruh

15:18

I can install vista on this right????????

is that NVME or SATA M.2

SATA M.2

then you should be fine

Okay

though i wouldn't recommend long term use

It is going to be in a PCI 3.0 slot tho lol

WinDVD

though i wouldn't recommend long term use

Just doing for the memes win7 is my main os

since vista is not optimized for ssd it will make a lot of writes

15:20

even windows 7 isnt

15:20

though there is a guide that helps

I dont have a hdd tho sadge

15:20

My only option

this https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?t=98&p=275

Windows Vista SSD Optimisation guide

Hello Vista master race, today I would like to present you the complete Windows Vista SSD optimisation guide for getting the best out of your SSD on your favour

@WinDVD it dosent load the usb drivers

it should though

15:26

i installed it with my usb 3 ryzen system

15:27

What am i doing worng?????

i cant see that image because funny slow internet

WinDVD

i cant see that image because funny slow internet

Havent you upgarded?

if you have 80 bucks for me to upgrade i'd be happy to accept LOL

15:29

but no i cant upgrade

I tought you said to a while ago that you whaited on your new internet

The Cubis

What am i doing worng?????

does it show the windows 7 startup logo when you started the installer

The Cubis

I tought you said to a while ago that you whaited on your new internet

data limit is up

15:30

im throttled

WinDVD

does it show the windows 7 startup logo when you started the installer

No the vista

The Cubis

No the vista

then that means you probably got the wrong iso

15:31

it should show windows 7 logo because windows 7 PE has USB 3 driver support

WinDVD

data limit is up

Oo

WinDVD

it should show windows 7 logo because windows 7 PE has USB 3 driver support

can you put vista install wim into windows 7 iso

WinDVD

since vista is not optimized for ssd it will make a lot of writes

does Windows 10 really have any SSD write reductions?

RaduTek

does Windows 10 really have any SSD write reductions?

i believe it does

15:32

other than auto update lmfao

WinDVD

then that means you probably got the wrong iso

What iso is it then?

Deleted User

can you put vista install wim into windows 7 iso

i dont think you can just slap it on, but its been done (the exkernel iso)

The Cubis

What iso is it then?

1 sec

15:32

did you pick this one? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cUbyk2FhJnE2bT1fLjo1Dg5yKh3tY5O6/view?usp=sharing

Windows Vista with Extended Kernel v10262021 (WIM).iso

WinDVD

did you pick this one? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cUbyk2FhJnE2bT1fLjo1Dg5yKh3tY5O6/view?usp=sharing

I used the updated one

i told you to get the exkernel iso

you need exkernel iso

WinDVD

Use the latest exkernel iso it has USB 3 drivers

e

15:34

but alas easy mistake to fix

so not this? https://drive.google.com/file/d/11DzLep-1jHBJxNIpXNLVI4AKdvuT5WPq/view?usp=sharing

WindowsVistax64Uptodate.iso

no

no.

my bad

thats up to date not exkernel

15:34

its no issue

15:35

but now u know lol

i know now lol

WinDVD

thats up to date not exkernel

so this then? https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=44&p=64#p64

Windows Vista with Extended Kernel (Current Version is v26102021)

Wait, what is this? Well, let's just say, it's exactly what it sounds like, so basically this is a Windows Vista x64 iso with the Extended Kernel by win32 prein

yes (edited)

WinDVD

did you pick this one? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cUbyk2FhJnE2bT1fLjo1Dg5yKh3tY5O6/view?usp=sharing

.

Deleted User

.

this

but what when you install vista?

15:37

will vista have usb drivers?

WinDVD

this is for D3D WARP btw

and i shuld use this to get some mininor 3d support

Deleted User

will vista have usb drivers?

@WinDVD

Deleted User

will vista have usb drivers?

yes

nice

The Cubis

and i shuld use this to get some mininor 3d support

yes but no aero, and its slow so i recommend only games that are basic

15:38

i think undertale uses D3D lol

WinDVD

yes but no aero, and its slow so i recommend only games that are basic

aero is overated in vista

15:39

if you have it you are just a tryhard

15:39

(no offencie)

considering im on 10 right now i dont even have true aero troll

WinDVD

considering im on 10 right now i dont even have true aero troll

dose this count some win10? lmao

The Cubis

dose this count some win10? lmao

why, but why would you do that?

15:41

I never liked that wallpaper enough to not change it

RaduTek

I never liked that wallpaper enough to not change it

idk i just love the 1809 wallpaper

meanwhile I like the default wallpapers of XP, Vista and 7 that I would use them

i like the old 10 wallpaper

15:42

the newer one kinda mid though

time to whait

yes

im glad my 8.1 iso finally works well enough

it is at 75% now lol

fast usb

kingston datatravler lol

3.0?

i think i had a 2gb version of that lmfao

15:44

old af but still works

Deleted User

3.0?

3.1 i think

WinDVD

i think i had a 2gb version of that lmfao

mine is 64gb beckuse it whas cheper then the 32 (edited)

i have 1 usb 3 drive and its also 64

i use a micro sd card on a msd to sd adapter plugged into a reader

its ONN brand

@Deleted User

Deleted User

i use a micro sd card on a msd to sd adapter plugged into a reader

i used to do that

The Cubis

@Deleted User

thats just your usb controller

15:46

not the usb drive

Deleted User

i use a micro sd card on a msd to sd adapter plugged into a reader

i bought this goofy ahh reader yesterday

15:46

because my smol kingston one is destroyed

WinDVD

thats just your usb controller

i know i just whanted tho show that i use 3.1 usb ports

Deleted User

i bought this goofy ahh reader yesterday

I call that one an SD Card corruption device

me and the homies

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

i like how this looks lol

RaduTek

I call that one an SD Card corruption device

had a few, the plastic case is so brutal

Deleted User

i bought this goofy ahh reader yesterday

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digital-64GB-DataTraveler-DT100G3/dp/B00C5K8CQ2

Kingston 64GB 100 G3 USB 3.0 DataTraveler (DT100G3/64GB), Black

Kingston 64GB USB 3.0 traveler 100 G3.

WinDVD

me and the homies

lol

RaduTek

had a few, the plastic case is so brutal

its useful for fixing scuffed partitions

RaduTek

I call that one an SD Card corruption device

so far still works

WinDVD

me and the homies

nice WWAN

RaduTek

nice WWAN

yes Sierra Wireless (Netgear) AirCard 770S

eh I can't trust a blob chip with my SD cards

RaduTek

eh I can't trust a blob chip with my SD cards

a chip with 0 passive components around it

it works fine for me

no capacitors, no resistors, no external crystal

never really had any problems

RaduTek

no capacitors, no resistors, no external crystal

this one has an external crystal

also it overdrives the LED to the point it's blinding

then again i lost mine

RaduTek

nice WWAN

i have this wifi usb adapter https://www.tp-link.com/au/support/download/tl-wn723n/v1/

Download for TL-WN723N | TP-Link Australia

TP Link - Download Center Detail

Deleted User

this one has an external crystal

oh then it may be the better one of these kind

The Cubis

i have this wifi usb adapter https://www.tp-link.com/au/support/download/tl-wn723n/v1/

not 5ghz sadly lol

The Cubis

i have this wifi usb adapter https://www.tp-link.com/au/support/download/tl-wn723n/v1/

WWAN is not Wi-Fi

i have TL WN722N i gave to my dad

RaduTek

WWAN is not Wi-Fi

it's short for Wireless Wide Area Network (edited)

RaduTek

WWAN is not Wi-Fi

bruh you are right

Wi-Fi is WLAN (Wireless Local Area Network)

RaduTek

Wi-Fi is WLAN (Wireless Local Area Network)

mhm you are soooo right

i need to get a new 4g modem for my laptop

15:50

mine was missing it

Bluetooth is WPAN (Wireless Personal Area Network)

WinDVD

i need to get a new 4g modem for my laptop

i whant to get one for my hp elitebook 840 g2

WinDVD

i need to get a new 4g modem for my laptop

do you have a data plan for your laptop?

RaduTek

do you have a data plan for your laptop?

i can use my phone sim no issue

honestly I'm still so surprised that pretty much no modern ultrabook has LTE or 5G connectivity (edited)

WinDVD

i can use my phone sim no issue

still it's a pain to exchange the SIM

there is an OEM lenovo 5G card

WinDVD

there is an OEM lenovo 5G card

5g

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/accessories-and-software/mobile-broadband/mobile-broadband_5g/4xc1d11452

ThinkPad SDX55 5G sub6 M.2 WWAN Module

Shop & save on the ThinkPad SDX55 5G sub6 M.2 WWAN Module & hundreds of other popular PC, home, business & gaming accessories at Lenovo today ✔️ Free shipping

RaduTek

honestly I'm still so surprised that pretty much no modern ultrabook has LTE or 5G connectivity (edited)

not even Apple's M1/M2 stuff

you could probably get 5g with that on any device

15:52

its just normal m.2

15:52

though its 399

what dose this divice do?

The Cubis

what dose this divice do?

its just chipset stuff

15:52

not really needed

WinDVD

its just chipset stuff

oo

and on vista it causes BSOD

okay

The Cubis

what dose this divice do?

kind of like a TPM

RaduTek

kind of like a TPM

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

its not actually TPM

15:54

but you can enable tpm in your bios settings

15:54

ALL ryzen pc's have the built in TPM

have tpm 2.0 enabeld

not really useful unless you want to be "supported" in windows 11's eyes lmfao

my pc is supported

15:55

sadly

"sadly"

why is that sad lol

spoiler: no reason

WinDVD

why is that sad lol

beckuse 11 is TRACH

15:56

just tooo mutch bloatwhare

but just because your pc is supported doesnt mean you have to update lmfao

I mean you may wake up one day with Windows 11 (edited)

RaduTek

I mean you may wake up one day with Windows 11 (edited)

it have hapend 10 TIMES

unless you disable your TPM

15:56

then disable the TPM

15:57

you don't need it unless you want to use Windows Hello

RaduTek

you don't need it unless you want to use Windows Hello

Dont have a facecam that supports windows hello unless i can get my frontcamra on the mobile to work with windows hello

RaduTek

I mean you may wake up one day with Windows 11 (edited)

The Cubis

Dont have a facecam that supports windows hello unless i can get my frontcamra on the mobile to work with windows hello

that's Windows Hello Facial Recognition

15:58

Windows Hello includes the pin authentication, fingerprint, security key and facial recognition

And i have some stability problems with 10/11 tho

still unless you have an IR camera you can't use Windows Hello Facial Recognition

iirc windows hello works with tpm 1.2 right?

maybe idk

i remember my laptop only has tpm 1.2 and fingerprint unlock worked fine

fooooor real this just hang

it will finish

16:00

just give it a sec

The Cubis

And i have some stability problems with 10/11 tho

@WinDVD this is not fun tho

i use 10 LTSC and i have no issues

WinDVD

it will finish

when you said that it finish

its actually more stable than 7 in my case

WinDVD

i use 10 LTSC and i have no issues

dosent hapen i 8.1

since AMD video drivers are buggy AF on 7

16:00

so it crashed more on 7 than 10

WinDVD

since AMD video drivers are buggy AF on 7

LAMO

16:00

never for me

maybe just my GPU then lmao

They are only unstable in 10 for me (edited)

damn'

Did i get right iso now?

yes

It just froze

16:02

Bruh

its not actually 7 or anything but its windows 7 PE

The Cubis

It just froze

do you have CSM on?

Mhm

i know it does that if CSM is off

16:02

otherwise it should boot ifne

16:02

fine*

If cms whas off regluar win7 wuld noot boot

16:03

WHYYYY DOSE nothing for me work

16:03

Why

again i did say it would be a gamble for B550

16:04

if i were you i'd just stick with VMWare

16:04

its better than nothing

Then i can not use my hole 32gb of ram

16:05

Can i change the install.esd file with windows 10 setup??? @WinDVD (edited)

16:07

????

im doing it

simply get an older pc

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

simply get an older pc

that is to ez

The Cubis

Can i change the install.esd file with windows 10 setup??? @WinDVD (edited)

no

Why?

i dont know the exact reason but i do know they arent compatible without modification

Is this right? @WinDVD

WinDVD

again i did say it would be a gamble for B550

Using dism now lmao KEKW

The Cubis

Is this right? @WinDVD

yes

Why dose it give me a error on signature?

bcdedit /set {IDHERE} NoIntegrityChecks Yes

if i was you

18:35

i would install windows 10 or 11

win10/11

maybe 8.1 or 7

7 is good

18:36

vista even bether

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

meh

oofer_dww

bcdedit /set {IDHERE} NoIntegrityChecks Yes

txh

@oofer_dww how do i finde the id?

18:50

nvm

@WinDVD i can boot to vista now but it its only fressing when trying to load usb

wdym

When i disable driver signature enfrocment it frose on the boot animitation when i ignore to disable it it loads the os without usb drivers

WinDVD

wdym

That is my problem right now

The Cubis

When i disable driver signature enfrocment it frose on the boot animitation when i ignore to disable it it loads the os without usb drivers

sounds like a usb problem

19:01

i didnt have that

19:01

so i dont know

going to slepp now let me try stuff tomoro

The Cubis

When i disable driver signature enfrocment it frose on the boot animitation when i ignore to disable it it loads the os without usb drivers

@arialgirl sorry if you dont whant to get pinged but can you might help me with usb driver

sup

19:29

look as someone who's done this before, it's not gonna be easy

19:30

in my testing this has been the most stable @The Cubis

ryzen_usb3.7z

147.72 KB

19:30

which means youll probably get a bsod every hour or so, depending on the task

19:30

lol

arialgirl

which means youll probably get a bsod every hour or so, depending on the task

thats fine ths is only for the memes

k

19:33

then thatll work

so i can add this to the install.wim file and use idsm to install vista right?

arialgirl

then thatll work

or am i missing somthing?

oh you're gonna use dism to apply the image?

19:35

ehh should work

19:35

should is the key word, anyway

arialgirl

oh you're gonna use dism to apply the image?

it is ezier for me beckuse then i only need to to mod one .wim file

fair

arialgirl

should is the key word, anyway

yeee but i dont need to add more stuff

19:36

for my ryzen 3 3100 and b550 chipset

not if this is for the memes, no

19:36

unless you run nvme

19:37

usb3 is all thats needed, since vista has generic sata and audio

naa it is sata m.2

arialgirl

not if this is for the memes, no

it is beckuse my rx 570 is to new

and if you have a realtek ethernet adapter, that likely has a driver anyway

arialgirl

and if you have a realtek ethernet adapter, that likely has a driver anyway

i have that downloaded

19:38

txh 4 the help btw hope it works

The Cubis

it is beckuse my rx 570 is to new

i have a rx 570

19:50

but no drivers for it on vista

Deformisani SAS

but no drivers for it on vista

i know that

arialgirl

in my testing this has been the most stable @The Cubis

im pretty sure this is the one that the exkernel iso uses but i could be wrong

no, the exkernel iso has a generic one

eyy i found this driver this migth work with vista beckuse it is from 2017

The Cubis

eyy i found this driver this migth work with vista beckuse it is from 2017

Looks sketchy

The Cubis

eyy i found this driver this migth work with vista beckuse it is from 2017

nah cant work

10:34

windvd tried didnt work

10:34

but try anyway

15.6 beta works, but well, doubt it has rx 570 support

Scamdisk

15.6 beta works, but well, doubt it has rx 570 support

570 came our in 2017

ofc

how would 2015 driver work on a newer gpu lol

Deleted User

nah cant work

Might work beckuse it is from 2017

nah

11:53

2017 is just a year when vista lost update support

11:53

its not like 7

11:53

vista was not cared about at all

But amd have open source driver so might work by modification it

how are you supposed to do that

11:54

try it but still

Need to fix the usb first

im glad i got ivy bridge

11:56

i can install vista exkernel even using my usb 3.0

11:56

i dont think same for vanilla tho

11:56

i still have 4 2.0 ports tho

11:57

4 2.0 and 4 3.0 in the back

11:57

meanwhile i have 0 usb 3.0 devices

The Cubis

eyy i found this driver this migth work with vista beckuse it is from 2017

it probably wont work as its just 17.10.1 not even 16.7.1 (for RX 480) works on vista

18:15

though i have seen a thing about getting linux drivers working on windows a looong time ago

18:16

http://www.elpauer.org/2011/03/linux-drivers-running-on-windows/

How do i add drivers to windows vista.wim file ntlite and poweriso dose not support vista @WinDVD

The Cubis

How do i add drivers to windows vista.wim file ntlite and poweriso dose not support vista @WinDVD

vLite iirc

WinDVD

vLite iirc

Okay

LMAO microsoft still host this

10:41

on ther website

tf

The Cubis

LMAO microsoft still host this

i mean why wouldnt it

11:48

i used the win7 aik before

i never used that and i've never heard of it

Deformisani SAS

i never used that and i've never heard of it

deployment tools

11:51

also has winpe creation tools

honestly never seen it

@WinDVD vLite is just craching for me

It just dose this

13:31

4 ever

The Cubis

It just dose this

you might have to use it on a vista VM its pretty darned old

WinDVD

you might have to use it on a vista VM its pretty darned old

can it work in 7 insted of a vista vm

I don't know but you can try

15:28

It may still crash even in 7

damn

can some one help me add the driver evrything fails for me

18:23

even DISM fails

peimg should do

18:28

yeah the one that's part of the Vista AIK

what option=?

install it first

18:33

Then there's should be a cmd shortcut that's well, called "PE Command Line tools" or something like that

how do i install it?

there's a setup file in the iso

18:35

run that

waikamd64.msi

now installed

Scamdisk

Then there's should be a cmd shortcut that's well, called "PE Command Line tools" or something like that

you whanted this right?

18:47

or have i done somthing wrong

Yes

18:52

That's it

then how do i use it

18:58

??

Scamdisk

Yes

never used this

The Cubis

LMAO microsoft still host this

when did you install windows 8.1

Deleted User

when did you install windows 8.1

bro you know

no?

19:25

i thought you have 7 (edited)

Deleted User

i thought you have 7 (edited)

on my ryzen yes

ah

WinDVD

It may still crash even in 7

did not work in 7

20:02

just gives me .net famework error affyer a while

Vista hangs hare why???? This is affter skipping oobde

20:19

It is noot update

20:20

Help

@WinDVD you know why?

no

@WinDVD can you cure cancer

yes

22:13

the solution is 42

Some one know why?

yeah

10:37

its because you run vista on hardware not designed for it

The Cubis

Some one know why?

bad pc

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

bad pc

terrible pc*

hi i installed vista but usb dosent work can i install usb drivers to vista from 8?

TRY UT!!!

15:47

TRY IT!!!!!!!!!

cal it or what lol

Are video drivers installed?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/834213768086683660/880612039213613066/unknown.png This worked, apart from the bsods (edited)

19:09

i used scamdisk's iso

19:11

using windows 7 usb3 drivers reduced the bsods, but they still happened

19:11

my theory is that something is calling on missing functions

E2

Are video drivers installed?

My rx 570 is to new

arialgirl

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/834213768086683660/880612039213613066/unknown.png This worked, apart from the bsods (edited)

I have not got a bsod yet

@WinDVD dose it exist a driver that gives me hardwhareaxelrtion support and so I can use both of my displays

No

@WinDVD what is the 6003 patch called

i forgot\

The Cubis

@WinDVD dose it exist a driver that gives me hardwhareaxelrtion support and so I can use both of my displays

how can you misspell so many things

hardwhareaxelrtion

Be nice

Vruh 2

hardwhareaxelrtion

i wouldnt be able to misspell it like that even if i wanted

17:05

im not even making fun, i am actually impressed

the pinned messages here kick ass

04:31

was about to ask about vista and ssd optimization but bam the guide was in the pastebin link

04:34

time to install vista on another pc

04:34

(feat. the ziptied radeon 5670)

thats the true purpose of this server (edited)

YES\

skip

im not even making fun, i am actually impressed

:stare:

Noot 64 bit sadly

why sp1 tho

21:34

and not sp2

Deleted User

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Beautiful emote :P

why not sp3

Why not sp4

why not sp4.1

why not sp69

Scamdisk

why not sp69

why not sp420

sp1337

skip

sp1337

sp 13-137

21:56

bruh,.

broad come

barisberat

and not sp2

Hp restore disc made 4 the laptop used

F**k right off

time to rename slui.exe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1nymTzZdKU (edited)

Jovial Ravioli

Windwos Vista VM

19:38

window vista

19:39

i'm wondering how easy would it be to start a "Windows Experiments" channel and how fast would it grow

@docR so i finally got a driver that works with the bluetooth control panel

19:52

i can pair and connect to this bluetooth speaker

19:52

issue is

19:52

19:53

found a driver

20:02

got further

20:02

it'll do everything except actually

20:02

pair

20:02

it shows up in control panel has drivers

20:05

but the speaker won't actually pair

20:05

and it doesn't show up under volume

20:05

(speaker works w my phone)

20:24

:(

20:26

20:27

nothing!!!!!! \

Buy a dongle

$

I know one that works with Vista, but pairing is buggy

I will make this work

just had to find more drivers

20:54

20:55

guess i don't need the

20:55

ui

20:55

https://www.deviantart.com/ebhefgyxp/art/Vista-XP-Shell-915806993 interesting

EbhefgyXP

Vista - XP Shell by EbhefgyXP on DeviantArt

why would anyone convert vista to something else

21:12

it should be the other way around

docR pinned a message to this channel. 10/10/2022 04:07

that's it i'm pulling the 11 theme out again

05:27

hello chat

wow its beautifuo

06:06

L

06:06

they never miss

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Damn. He played the Windows 11 card

06:51

well played

06:51

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

Click to see attachment 🖼️

i should beat you with a rock

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Windows 11 UI with drift

beats xp

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

beats xp

drift means services failed to start, bsod, etc

16:07

windows xp beats it

i was referring to the theme

Deleted User

drift means services failed to start, bsod, etc

i know what drift is

16:08

i never get it because i use GOOD (3rd gen intel and older) co.outers

16:08

computers

any good plex themes for vista?

04:27

found one

there's this great deviantart account which did LH themes, but iirc most of them were for XP

most any lh/plex themes i can find are for 7 or xp

04:30

vista is under-appreciated

no but i don't see the reason to theme the best looking OS in the world y'know

boredom

04:31

purely out of boredom

04:31

also the beta 2 theme kicks ass (same everything except basic is grey instead of blue)

04:31

(looks hella clean)

nice

https://www.deviantart.com/least1234/art/Vista-Beta-2-for-Vista-426271382

i can't open deviantart anymore

04:33

L

idk if i should be happy or sad tbh

why are you using adguard

because i'm not skip

use ublock origin

i use both

why do you use two adblockers

i actually need the parental restrictions

04:34

from adguard

Deleted User

because i'm not skip

^

i use self control

based but the web is just too much now

seek out christ

lol

uncanny valley

04:41

vista is the last version of windows you could make resemble xp pretty damn closely if you tried

just run xp man

04:42

but yeah it's close enough

Deleted User

just run xp man

xp sux

04:42

vista kernel goes hard

Deleted User

i actually need the parental restrictions

self control

Deleted User

because i'm not skip

i literally use adguard

adguard family?

i use adguard too

i just use the DNS

17:58

set it up manually

17:58

blocks Microsoft Solitaire Collection ads

17:59

and ads in most Android apps

well guess the office 2013 setup gets further now

09:51

won't expect it to actually work tho

09:54

exactly what i was expecting

even i force installed it somehow like that one time, it may as well still be its skydrive been the only thing that works

Love it when Vista takes several minutes to boot on ssd

Never had that happen on my machine

Trimming the SSD with ADATA's utility fixed it i think

16:57

~~trim support backport for next ext kernel update~~ /s

please

17:52

backport 8.1 defrag

@Hu Ma Gawd you wouldn't possibly have a bunch of usb 3 drivers for me to try out right

I have some

mind sending ?

for ryzen?

preferably generic drivers

19:05

but sure

19:05

just send me whatever you have

19:05

ryzen_usb3 doesn't work for me

19:05

BAD_POOL_CALLER and BAD_POOL_HEADER

XHCI_UASP_VISTA_WIN7_MUI-751CC.7z

585.95 KB

swaggy

you could try generic controller drivers and hub drivers from ryzen_usb3

BTW

19:08

are these drivers you sent me from win8

19:08

XHCI UASP

yea

they work flawless on xp for me

19:08

not sure about vista

nice

i need the aik because i'm on 10

well the vista ones are different

19:09

less stubs

oh yeah since RX570 works on vista would i be able to modify my radeon drivers to use ntoskrn8

19:10

and maybe have that work

19:10

they're quite a bit newer than the rx570 drivers for vista

wait rx570 works on vista?

yeah

What, since when?

i think yesterday

19:10

look in general

19:10

someone modded a driver to use ntoskrn8

19:10

and it works

19:10

but it's from like

19:10

2017

19:11

oldest 7 driver for my gpu is from 2020 (maybe there's a beta driver from 2019)

19:12

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834204256729825310/1034858500267978783/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/834204256729825310/1034867674339086449/unknown.png @Hu Ma Gawd

damn

this is insane

Insane

i want to try modding my drivers to use that ntoskrn

19:13

that's apparently the only mod that's been done

19:13

as far as comparing on cff explorer

How buggy is it?

idk

19:13

not my machine

has it been tried with the latest extended kernel and it's syscall driver?

if only there was a similar thing to use later 10 amd drivers on nt 6.x (edited)

Hu Ma Gawd

has it been tried with the latest extended kernel and it's syscall driver?

win32 said the ntoskrn used by this is a bit more advanced

Hu Ma Gawd

has it been tried with the latest extended kernel and it's syscall driver?

Yeah, I think it's the MovAXDEAD ntoskrnl emu

oh ok

pretty sure

19:14

the 8 ending sounds familiar yes

19:14

btw the drivers you sent (edited)

19:14

do they need exkernel or anything

no

aight cool

tho tbf it may need to be forked for more functions

it has been forked by george king

19:17

he's maintaining it rn

Hu Ma Gawd

has it been tried with the latest extended kernel and it's syscall driver?

I need like 10 more functions to get AMD drivers working.

i just wish i could actually fucking test vista on my machine

https://github.com/GeorgeK1ng/NTOSKRNL_Emu

GitHub - GeorgeK1ng/NTOSKRNL_Emu: Library of missed NTOSKRNL import...

Library of missed NTOSKRNL import functions. Contribute to GeorgeK1ng/NTOSKRNL_Emu development by creating an account on GitHub.

applying the wim from winntsetup doesn't work installing normally bsods with bad pool caller if it's from the exkernel iso with usb 3 drivers

19:18

etc etc

iirc it seems like even the normal updated iso seems to have similar issues

19:19

something something 7D bsod

no i'm pretty sure the bsods are because of usb

19:20

uhhh how do i slipstream drivers with imagex

you need the vista aik

19:20

well the sp1 one

19:20

why? PEIMG

yes

19:20

i have the aik

19:21

i mounted the iso with imagex

19:21

but idk how to slipstream drivers with it

19:21

i know how to do it with dism

run cmd as trusted installer first

19:21

because perm issues

uhh hold up then

19:22

aight

19:23

@Scamdisk what else

Run something like this: "C:\Program Files\Windows AIK\Tools\PETools\peimg.exe" /inf=C:\dell\drivers\R162323\Vista32*.inf C:\winpe\mount

19:25

PEIMG works on a full windows image too

oh ok

19:25

was about to ask

UI deploying stuff don't allow integrating drivers into a vista image only because dism doesn't support it

so that's why slipstreaming drivers on winnt doesn't work with my vista install.wim

19:31

lmfao that bsoded my system so hard

lmfao

"C:\Windows AIK\Tools\PETools\peimg.exe" /inf=C:\usb3\UASPSTOR\x64\uaspstor.inf C:\MountDir

19:34

bsod command

19:34

System service exception

19:41

ugh i'll have to do this on vista it seems

what

20:06

Vruh 2

applying the wim from winntsetup doesn't work installing normally bsods with bad pool caller if it's from the exkernel iso with usb 3 drivers

i managed to get it installed on my ryzen system with those drivers

21:57

though i did find out you can get a bad pool header bsod at random (not very often generally after about 2 hours

21:58

not as common as it normally is

no i can't install it at all

21:58

the drivers work

21:59

but it bsods the system on the second stage of setup within like

21:59

30 seconds

yeah thats strange

22:02

the driver seems to cause bsod more on certain setups compared to others that rarely bsod

22:02

i know with my legacy gpu it never bsod after 8hr but with my uefi rx480 it had more BSODs

22:03

that could have been luck though

Hu Ma Gawd

damn

my system lol

Vruh 2

i want to try modding my drivers to use that ntoskrn

did you read the readme file?

yu

oh ok

22:32

@Vruh 2 did you get vista installed?

no

damn

i'm going insane

22:33

i can't fucking slipstream drivers

22:33

and the usb 3 drivers in the exkrnel iso bsods my system

do you have a natevly supported machinee 4 vista? @Vruh 2

yeah my laptop

22:34

yeah i can install it there and move it to my machine

22:34

but then it'll die once it installs enough drivers

Vruh 2

yeah i can install it there and move it to my machine

i did that 4 my ryzen

but how did you get usb 3 working

the only why 4 me

Vruh 2

but how did you get usb 3 working

my own drivers

i meant

22:35

how did you install the drivers

pnputil -i -a *.inf (edited)

wait really?

22:35

fuck

22:35

i need to try it again

Vruh 2

wait really?

yep just evrything the same folder so ex all .inf files and .cab files need to be in same folder

can you send me the drivers you used

sureeee whait 2 mins

also did you run pnputil on your ryzen or the other machine

Vruh 2

also did you run pnputil on your ryzen or the other machine

other machine

i see

preloaded drivers and then moved the disk

22:39

and whaited a bit (of course)

issue is it starts installing other drivers

22:39

and sometimes there are prompts which i THINK stop driver installation

it dosent

22:41

(atleast not 4 me)

22:41

@Vruh 2 https://www.mediafire.com/file/hc42ohzwr0q0chb/amd+vista+usb.zip/file (dont forget the regfile)

amd vista usb

22:42

otherwse driver is not signed

god i need a bare sp2 vista iso

22:48

i don't have tha patience to wait for scamdisk's isos

Vruh 2

god i need a bare sp2 vista iso

you might need the patch that makes buldnumber 6003 tho

yeah

22:49

exkernel site has the updates

22:52

@The Cubis did you do legacy boot or debugging mode

Vruh 2

@The Cubis did you do legacy boot or debugging mode

what?

i'm sure you're aware when you try to boot vista on ryzen it gives you a 1E bsod

22:53

like

22:53

90% of the cases

lol no

well you're one of the exceptions then

beckuse i use CSM

oh there

22:54

so legacy boot?

igues

that's why

22:54

on UEFI it's 99% guaranteed you're gonna get the 1E bsod unless you enable debugging mode

22:54

legacy doesn't have this

and i allwhys booted to unsigned driver efrocment untill the 6003 patch is installed

The Cubis

and i allwhys booted to unsigned driver efrocment untill the 6003 patch is installed

to be on safe side

Yes csm fixes the 1E issue

23:42

But you can also just have debugging mode enabled by default

WinDVD

But you can also just have debugging mode enabled by default

never herd of that mode

It's in the F8 menu

oh hmmm

PCIIDEX bsod

00:27

@win32 what is pciidex.sys

00:28

seriously?

is the chipset being weird??

00:36

i can't say much about it

that's such a weird file for it to get stuck on

i think it handles more than just the ide bus

no doubt

nice

FUCK

02:05

i'm the only one who hasn't gotten vista to run on ryzen

02:05

fuck this pc

02:05

only good for nt 3.51\4

WinDVD

nice

bitch is that

@Hu Ma Gawd i love you brother

02:57

no homo

02:57

your driver worked

02:58

and it fully installed

02:58

i now have vista on ryzen

did you manage to get amd driver on vista?

lodocus

bitch is that

yes

02:58

17.10 on vista

na no way

02:58

damn i could actually use vista now

i'm going to test modding later drivers

02:59

that driver has 2 modified files

03:00

both of which just have redirections to ntoskrn8.sys

03:00

which makes me think i could try doing this to later drivers

good luck with it

@win32 could you

03:02

pretty please

03:02

just maybe

03:02

check if that ntoskrn8 has the required functions for the driver i'm gonna try

which driver is that?

adrenalin 20.9

03:04

but i think my card actually supports 19.12

03:04

https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/beta/win7-radeon-software-adrenalin-2020-edition-20.9.2-sep29.exe in any case here's a link (edited)

win32

which driver is that?

i think the main driver itself is atimkdag.sys or something

03:05

atikmdag

03:06

i actually think they might've just purged 2019 drivers from cards that support newer drivers

It could fix Intel wifi drivers maybe

19.12.3 says it fixes issues with the rx5500xt

03:11

and the rx5500xt was literally released december 12th that year

03:14

@win32

03:15

oldest driver for my gpu

03:15

https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/beta/Win7-Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-2020-Edition-19.12.3-Dec18.exe

03:15

so if the one i sent earlier has no chance of working

03:15

maybe this one has

03:15

this one is literally the first one with vulkan support

i think the forked version can, on the first one

on the first one?

win32

i think the forked version can, on the first one

wym forked version

by george king

oh

03:38

forked ntoskrnl_emu

helo

win32

by george king

mind sending it?

03:47

or is it the one in the 17.10 driver

03:48

also this has been running stable thus far

03:48

with the exception of a 1E bsod after installing some driver

03:53

hallo ?

Vruh 2

or is it the one in the 17.10 driver

it might be... i haven't compiled it myself

man i'm confused

i don't think the original version could have done any of the amd drivers because of the lacking crt functions

well then i might aswell try that then

03:58

why is storpor8 here though?

03:58

this is puzzling me

not sure, guess it was built along with it

uhh either way

04:06

i have no idea where to start modding 19.12.3

04:06

do i go on cff explorer and change ntoskrnl to ntoskrn8?

yeah

wb inf modding

04:07

i have no idea how to do that shit

win32

yeah

i assume i also have to update the checksum

Vruh 2

wb inf modding

change nt.amd64.6.1 to nt.amd64.6.0 or something

ah

and yeah for the checksum but don't rebuild the header

storpor8 doesn't seem to be used by neither modified files

04:09

it's just ntoskrn8

04:09

ok cool

win32

change nt.amd64.6.1 to nt.amd64.6.0 or something

so

04:24

there's no such thing as nt.amd64.6.1

04:24

on the inf

NTamd64.6.1

04:27

that is the proper syntax

mh this is taking quite a bit

04:31

but it did let me install

04:31

and it did give me the unsigned driver prompt

04:32

shit i forgot

Vruh 2

shit i forgot

it should still work

04:45

i got that error even with nointegritychecks on and testsigning also on

04:46

@win32 it seems like no

04:46

it doesn't work

so as far as i can tell the only thing stopping 2016 intel wifi drivers from working is NdisSetCoalescableTimerObject in NDIS.sys

or it could be windows being stupid

04:47

and not actually installing drivers

04:47

from the attempt i had before

04:47

but i don't think it works

Vruh 2

Click to see attachment 🖼️

maybe a function is missing, but i hadn't explicitly checked for it because it was in my thing and not the other

could you check preeeetty please

its easy to check with dependency walker

oh

04:49

04:50

04:51

hold on

04:51

jit may be trippin

04:51

ok so

04:51

in theory there should be no missing function

04:51

if it's importing from ntoskrn8

04:51

jit may INDEED be tripping

04:52

and i may have forgotten to copy the modded files

04:57

why is the one from system32 importing ntoskrnl

04:57

and the one in my desktop ntoskrn8

04:59

05:00

task failed successfully ?

05:01

ownt

05:07

@win32 seems like the 2 main driver files are fully importing everything and nothing's missing

05:07

or atleast the 2 files that the 17.10 drivers mods and that i modded aswell

05:07

but it seems like there are more files that are missing stuff

well theres only 3 sys files...

after modding the last file i get 7F on boot

05:34

ugh

05:34

there is nothing missing

05:34

it just doesnt work

i wonder what causes print screen to freeze vista on my pc

05:51

no bsod just freeze

05:51

yet alt print screen doesnt crash it

Vruh 2

it just doesnt work

so its a dead end?

06:25

no magic tricks no nothing?

WinDVD

so as far as i can tell the only thing stopping 2016 intel wifi drivers from working is NdisSetCoalescableTimerObject in NDIS.sys

Bruh fr

The Cubis

Bruh fr

*with the ntoskrn8.sys included in the amd driver pack

the 2021 driver seems to be the same

WinDVD

*with the ntoskrn8.sys included in the amd driver pack

I whant intel wireless : )

I don't think anyone has backported 7's ndis.sys though.

Iknow

Vruh 2

after modding the last file i get 7F on boot

What did you do the drivers i sent you works JUST fine

i modded my own drivers

Vruh 2

i modded my own drivers

oh okay ig

14:02

why dose not discord screen share work in fierfox 85?? vocie chat works tho

i've just had vista kill itself in the most insane way

16:59

it legit just

16:59

corrupted itself and the file system completely

16:59

win10 chkdsk came to rescue and somehow managed to pull that shit back up

17:01

system is still dead

17:01

but win10 managed to make the file system somehow kinda work

17:04

i set it up again and it bad pool caller'd me in the middle of the exkernel setup

17:44

thus rendering the install unbootable and unusable

17:47

vista on ryzen + uefi does not work

17:47

just doesn't

17:48

too unstable

17:48

on legacy it's ok

Vruh 2

but win10 managed to make the file system somehow kinda work

Wtf

huh back on vista

19:04

now with a cleaner install time to try again the amd stuff

test mode everywhere

19:12

but in vista

?

like how when you enable test mode on vista/7 the text "test mode" appears on all 4 corners

it's in all 4 corners

@win32

19:25

what the hell is cng.sys

can negate gaming

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

can negate gaming

Vruh 2

@win32

seems like a system driver that implements the bcrypt functions

yes

19:30

it's nowhere to be seen in my system

19:30

i assume i can't just grab that driver and shove it into my system

not the win8 version

19:31

i'm not sure about the win7 version

19:31

but i don't think so for that one

it doesn't seem to be necessary

19:32

the modded 17.10 driver also has that driver imported

19:32

but it also doesn't provide it

19:35

oh shit i was modding the wrong driver (edited)

19:35

19.12.2 is the first one to support my gpu i think

19:42

@win32 in a weird turn of events: it was removed the next driver release

19:42

wtf?

either way

19:50

3b bsod

my verdict is that navi won't work on vista

19:59

another bad pool header bsod installing the driver

19:59

either way

20:00

until win32 works on driver support for amd or sumth this is about it for amd drivers newer than 17.10

polaris best anyway

that's not tha point though

WinDVD

polaris best anyway

so my card is the best?

Vruh 2

@win32 in a weird turn of events: it was removed the next driver release

i want ryzen 5450u gpu driver for 7

16:42

:(

ownt

16:46

@win32 what's the next ordeal of stuff that's gonna come to exkernel?

i think i can fix the 32 bit stuff

discord on vista???

19:07

Vista with Aero on Eee PC

i'm surprised eeepcs could run aero at all

The Cubis

so my card is the best?

yes

20:02

if its RX 400 or 500

of course i have the first series of gpus that doesn't work with vista trol

(edited)

it may work in the future though

ImSwordQueen

i'm surprised eeepcs could run aero at all

it has a GMA whatever

20:16

not GMA 950 as I've said in the past

20:16

I don't think it has much hardware video acceleration

20:16

maybe MPEG2

WinDVD

if its RX 400 or 500

its 500

RaduTek

it has a GMA whatever

x3100?

idk some very cut down thing

21:59

doesn't have composite TV out ❗ ❗

21:59

all I remember from an intel PDF I read

@win32 i have compiled george king's ntoskrn8

20:36

in any case here are the files produced

ntoskrn8.sys

159 KB

storpor8.sys

21 KB

20:36

targeted at vista

the one included with the amd driver is different for sure

i checked against my video driver and GK's file seems to have the functions

21:27

@WinDVD are you willing to try that ntoskrn8

with the 17.10 driver?

21:27

sure i can

yeah

21:28

should be a drop in replacement

21:28

just replace it in drivers

let me reboot

whoops

21:30

seems like i killed his system ! ! !

21:30

god

aero still working and i can still boot

21:31

seems like it works fine

ohhh

21:31

interesting

21:31

storpor isn't used for the video driver btw

21:31

unless you're using an USB driver that requires it

yeah ik i didnt even bother replacing it

ok cool

21:32

i'll try 19.12.3 against that driver

ndis.sys from 7 when

21:32

actually

what would that allow

can someone drop that here real quick

to run

Vruh 2

what would that allow

2021 intel wifi drivers

21:35

also is it possible to access a bitlocker drive encrypted in 10 on vista?

21:35

maybe with 3rd party software?\

anyways

21:37

i wonder what the differences are between this ntoskrn8

21:37

and the one in the amd driver

Apparently KB5017361 upgraded Windows 7's VGA driver to support GOP.

Vruh 2

i wonder what the differences are between this ntoskrn8

@win32 any idea?

You'll have to look in Dependency Walker to compare the number of functions. There will probably be some more runtime library functions like printf variants.

21:39

I'm in Linux rn.

win32

Apparently KB5017361 upgraded Windows 7's VGA driver to support GOP.

does that mean Pure UEFI?

Yeah.

21:39

https://github.com/vxiiduu/VxKex/issues/41

Windows 7 now supports native UEFI and Secure Boot!!! · Issue #41 ·...

Just start WinPE, extract the Win7 ISO and use Dism++ to install KB5017361 patch from Microsoft Update Catalog, and restart your computer, start installing Win7! But if your computer supports CSM, ...

damn thats surprising microsoft did that for an os they want nothing to do with anymore

So now if we can run the Windows 7 VGA, we have a better chance of things working on these systems.

i assume ordinal number is a good indicator of how many functions are there

yeah

GK - 1997

21:40

oh fuck i don't have hte other ntoskrn8

21:40

uhhh

21:40

hold up

21:41

@win32 btw. i don't know why 19.12.3 doesn't work with my gpu on vista

21:41

doesn't seem to miss any functions

21:41

it just bsods

21:42

both see m to have 1997

21:42

for all i know it probably is the GK ntoskrn8

21:42

but the 2014 file date is weird

21:43

We can't run NVIDIA 411 either and we aren't exactly missing any functions... but there might be a delay loaded one that works better than NVIDIA's implementation. Maybe if I added that one, the driver would work.

Vruh 2

for all i know it probably is the GK ntoskrn8

yeah, ntoskrnl extender is older than the extended kernel, but only now did the amd driver get modded

21:44

i have no idea about the differences between both

21:44

hxd indicates there are some differences

win32

We can't run NVIDIA 411 either and we aren't exactly missing any functions... but there might be a delay loaded one that works better than NVIDIA's implementation. Maybe if I added that one, the driver would work.

could it be that?

21:46

anyways i'll give 19.12.3 another try

21:46

and i need to install vista again

it's possible

doesn't help i can't debug at all

21:52

ugh

Missing functions for 7's ndis.sys on vista exkernel only

23:42

with ntoskrnl emu there are less but still missing 2

watch vista completely ruin my boot drive

00:16

in real time

00:16

as soon as this bsods i'm left with no os

00:18

my boot drive was fine

00:18

then vista decided to start chkdsk

00:19

then i restarted and it bsoded

00:19

then i restarted again and the D: drive was completely corrupted

00:19

and now i'm here

00:19

looks like every single file is corrupted

lol

no dice on gk's ntoskrn8

02:02

still gives me a SYSTEM SERVICE EXCEPTION bsod when installing the driver

enough messing around

02:11

i'll just wait till the exkernel gets updated to support these drivers

Vruh 2

lol

Is this real or another concept/edit

17:53

It’s real

17:53

How come I never heard of it?

17:53

What does it do

uhh

17:54

it's a driver kit

17:54

you write/compile drivers with it (edited)

Vruh 2

you write/compile drivers with it (edited)

oh k

WinDVD

2021 intel wifi drivers

This wuld be nice

indeed but alas ndis.sys is missing functions

@win32 i spoke with forbidden user

05:10

and apparently the latest driver that works on vista is 18.3.4

05:10

with broken DX11

05:10

and pretty much all drivers since 15.7 have broken opengl

05:10

so that's the catch with the modded radeon drivers

th3m?

y3s

05:11

he's the one who made the modded drivers

Zamn...

05:12

wish h3d fix the modded steam...

Vruh 2

and apparently the latest driver that works on vista is 18.3.4

missing function in amd_opencl64.dll with CFGMGR32.DLL (amd 22.6.1 windows 7 driver)

10:30

same goes for amd_opencl32.dll

10:35

32bit missing in atiumdva.dll

10:39

most of the functions missing seem to be in user32

10:40

specifically 32bit

there is a ghost of a message here lmfao

What dose this mean?

It means you need to get the SHA-256 updates and such

13:23

I remember getting windows update working was a pain in vista

WinDVD

It means you need to get the SHA-256 updates and such

what is that update caled?

I forgit

damn

But check msfn for the errir

13:24

Error

allredy have found nothing helpful

I know somewhere on there it's there

13:25

Or just do it the easy way and use an up to date iso

why not just update using harry's wsus

13:26

then do the funny server 2008 esu

I tryed the update proxy server tho did not work dude

i just used the fully updated iso and extended kernel is complaining on that i dont have 6003 and if i try to install that update windows update just complains on that it dosent apply to my system

23:47

nvm i whas missing some updates

https://www.aimp.ru/?do=news&id=165

AIMP

AIMP : Free Audio Player : Официальный сайт программы

nice

I'm gonna port cng.sys to vista sometime soon

02:30

tpm 2.0 drivers need it

Hu Ma Gawd

I'm gonna port cng.sys to vista sometime soon

and apparently some AMD video drivers

I wuld love to see ported intel 5 gen grafick driver

tokyo drift

i wuld luv to s pirted rtx 4090 grafick diriver tou

how t pirate rtx 40900 for fre?

just download gpu

how...

same way you download more ram

WinDVD

tokyo drift

hmm

too obvious

oofer_dww

too obvious

you know what it is, right?

oofer_dww

too obvious

ok, it's vmware unity

RaduTek

Click to see attachment 🖼️

thank god it's sp2

00:16

hmmm

We get it, you’re using unity mode

arialgirl

We get it, you’re using unity mode

unty mode is soo awsomme XDDD

13:04

i using vista media player on trach 11

13:04

love vista

expect for the fact you can actually force vista wmp11 to run on 11 without any vm shit

13:10

the XP one as well, which well, on vista and later it behaves like the vista version

Yep

Scamdisk

the XP one as well, which well, on vista and later it behaves like the vista version

as in backend?

The UI switches to Vista mode

oh I was thinking about WMP9

18:55

re-read your message and understood it now

arialgirl

We get it, you’re using unity mode

indeed

skip

i using vista media player on trach 11

i actually installed it on 11, went back to wmp12

Tried installing Vista as my main ( Non ExKernel, I was gonna install Ximonite's latest Build later on ) but I could not get the WiFi to work no matter which driver I tried, even the one originally designed for my card. Does anyone have any suggestions? @here

Yeah have you tried installing it

ApertureSketch

Tried installing Vista as my main ( Non ExKernel, I was gonna install Ximonite's latest Build later on ) but I could not get the WiFi to work no matter which driver I tried, even the one originally designed for my card. Does anyone have any suggestions? @here

what wifi card are you using?

skip

what wifi card are you using?

Killer Wireless N-1202

06:54

I think it has to be modded to work on Vista

try installing exkernel and see if the win7 driver works

ApertureSketch

Killer Wireless N-1202

this driver i have seems to have the driver for vista

07:05

does that match the hwid of yours?

07:07

if it does here

ak27w7.zip

1.16 MB

WinDVD

if it does here

Yep, it worked

07:15

Man getting Vista to run is harder than I thought, my pc wouldn't enter the setup phase for about an hour and after a few resets and flicking bios settings it got in.

07:15

Time to install the modded NVidia Driver and get some games going

ApertureSketch

Man getting Vista to run is harder than I thought, my pc wouldn't enter the setup phase for about an hour and after a few resets and flicking bios settings it got in.

but it runs win2k fine?

RayZen

but it runs win2k fine?

I switched out my pc with another one

oh

...

there are many things wrong with that image

WinDVD

there are many things wrong with that image

in SO many different levels

how bad is vista on 6th gen core cpus?

Pretty bad

very good

it's a great experience

17:36

ok so what post-timing bug intel cpus play with it the worst and which ones the best

3rd gen best trol

ive heard 12th gen doesn't drift on vista from what @win5270 found

But doesn't 12th gen remove CSM?

WinDVD

But doesn't 12th gen remove CSM?

Windows Vista works without it

Damn I didn't know that

WinDVD

Damn I didn't know that

00:37

https://msfn.org/board/topic/183939-windows-vista-on-alder-lake-system/

Windows Vista on Alder Lake System

After 10 years using Sandy Bridge, I have decided that the time has come to update my main hardware, I resisted updating, among other things, due to the stagnation of intel between 2012 and 2017 as well as the incompatibility of old Windows (already Kaby Lake was not even officially compatible wi...

he uses CSM so does that mean 12th gen has CSM

WinDVD

he uses CSM so does that mean 12th gen has CSM

Vista will work without CSM with uefiseven though i think

what is uefiseven for

00:41

win7 works on uefi with simple acpi.sys replacement

00:41

sometimes even that isnt needed

The VGA driver was not GOP compliant. (edited)

what do republiczns have to do with vga drivers

Graphics Output Protocol.

01:13

It's part of the UEFI Class 3 specification.

01:13

Your GPU must also support it.

my bad wrong gop

win32

Graphics Output Protocol.

So that's what Libertarians call themselves these days?

WinDVD

he uses CSM so does that mean 12th gen has CSM

yes

06:18

but not their iGPUs

?

alder lake iGPUs don't work in CSM

why not?

WinDVD

why not?

dunno

06:23

but intel decided to block their newer iGPUs from working in CSM

thats weird

gop is republican?

win32

Graphics Output Protocol.

I only knew it as this

Same

RayZen

alder lake iGPUs don't work in CSM

There aren’t drivers that would work on vista anyway

Hu Ma Gawd

gop is republican?

grand old party

15:31

Hu Ma Gawd

gop is republican?

Greg's Operational Paradigm

19:06

Stay away from the GOP, those folks utilize Javascript too much

19:06

Bad paradigm

19:07

Imagine if GNOME 40 and Chrome OS had offspring

19:08

And not the good kind of Offspring that yells, aye yeah yeah yeah when starting a game in Crazy Taxi

win5270

Click to see attachment 🖼️

oh, you winclient?

I encountered an interesting coincidence today

00:09

I figured out that "let's go brandon" is likely related to trump, then immediately after, I get recommended a youtube video about shutting down wifi networks. the interesting thing about this is there's a wifi network in range of my house called "let's go brandon"

00:11

youtube is trying to make me do some trolling?

00:18

to move the discussion back to windows vista, I'm starting to work on the installer for sp3 and am almost done with everything else.

Ximonite moment

hi vruh

Hu Ma Gawd

to move the discussion back to windows vista, I'm starting to work on the installer for sp3 and am almost done with everything else.

also tested some ways to pack all the files into an installer and I think I'll be able to make the package around 1GB

Cruh

Hu Ma Gawd

also tested some ways to pack all the files into an installer and I think I'll be able to make the package around 1GB

The fuck does it include

00:20

Being 1gb

00:20

Im assuming an unreal amount of updates

every update from base sp2 to 2022 level, ultimate extras, .net framework 3.5 and 4.6.2, and directx runtime

As i expected

Hu Ma Gawd

I figured out that "let's go brandon" is likely related to trump, then immediately after, I get recommended a youtube video about shutting down wifi networks. the interesting thing about this is there's a wifi network in range of my house called "let's go brandon"

You can't shut down LGB.

01:07

Then you shut down all Vista users.

that wifi network is a core dependency of the vista operating system

Hu Ma Gawd

I figured out that "let's go brandon" is likely related to trump, then immediately after, I get recommended a youtube video about shutting down wifi networks. the interesting thing about this is there's a wifi network in range of my house called "let's go brandon"

let's go brandon means fuck joe biden or something

23:23

I don't understand where they got the name brandom from though

Hu Ma Gawd

youtube is trying to make me do some trolling?

ISM_64

I don't understand where they got the name brandom from though

cause some fuck joe biden chant sounded like lets go brandon to a cnn reporter and then it became a meme

01:29

anyways 6th gen vista intel whel

01:29

when

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

cause some fuck joe biden chant sounded like lets go brandon to a cnn reporter and then it became a meme

cnn moment troll

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

anyways 6th gen vista intel whel

probably not for a long time

17:21

@win32 have you worked on drift correction at all recently?

no

17:22

chromium is dead on vista and 7 rn

17:22

on windows 8 it only runs with --no-sandbox

win32

chromium is dead on vista and 7 rn

yeah, it's wanting this function now, which is Windows 8 only

But it's not the real reason why it doesn't work.

23:11

This function can be stubbed very easily, but other things make it not work.

win32

This function can be stubbed very easily, but other things make it not work.

i'm gonna boot into Server 2012 and try it

23:11

i'll use --no-sandbox

Still working on Server 2012, but I imagine this won't last long

win5270

Still working on Server 2012, but I imagine this won't last long

i thought they said they were extending 7 support to january?

WinDVD

i thought they said they were extending 7 support to january?

Version 109.x will be updated until then I imagine, but 110 beta is available and does not work

welp the end of days is near trol

Holy shit it did not hit me yet

23:41

It's fucking november 2022 already

yep

23:41

another quick year (edited)

Half way through at that

23:41

Time flies

23:41

It's almost 2023

Bye bye windows 8.1 ! ! ! !

2020 feels like yesterday

Bye bye windows 7 ! ! ! (edited)

Windows Vista and 7 will be ok because they have extended kernels

well unless 10 functions are added i imagine it wont last long

Windows 8.x however...

They're already being added

it will likely be like xp and vista, as soon as they stop supporting 7? 8 goes down too

As far as i'm aware

WinDVD

well unless 10 functions are added i imagine it wont last long

@win32 is already working on it

damn really?

23:43

faster than windows 10

It should be known like 99% of applications are still running on top of win32 and uwp is literally deprecated

yet same support

It should be possible to keep getting these 10 functions to 7 or vista

that would be pretty awesome (edited)

Vruh 2

It should be known like 99% of applications are still running on top of win32 and uwp is literally deprecated

Not to mention modern Windows still uses the Vista kernel

Exactly

VIsta will be alright

As long as we're on top of NT 6

windows 12 will be a linux distro troll

WinDVD

windows 12 will be a linux distro troll

nah it'll still just be Windows Vista with a new UI slapped on it and UWP stapled to it and more features that no one asked for

Microsoft it's time to let vista go ! ! ! (edited)

i hope they keep using its kernel for a while bc if they stop then we're fucked

My god nt is old

i dont see them stopping though, windows isnt their cash cow anymore, they dont care

23:57

they'd rather keep using the vista kernel bc it's good enough

Vruh 2

My god nt is old

it's younger than linux

Technically no

23:57

If you wanna count the early days

23:57

No

23:58

Nt has been in the production since 1989

23:58

I lowkey just want to see them make a new kernel sometime

23:59

Which isn't going to happen as long as x86 reigns (edited)

23:59

And even then

23:59

WoA

Vruh 2

I lowkey just want to see them make a new kernel sometime

there was midori

There is probably a line in the code of the very os we're using that has been around since 1989

when did getcurrentprocess() get added?

00:00

that is basically return -1

win32

when did getcurrentprocess() get added?

Yesterday

Vruh 2

I lowkey just want to see them make a new kernel sometime

compatibility though

02:58

maybe do something like 9x and nt and separate the version with the new kernel as a different release

The win32 subsystem can still be implemented in the new kernel.

win5270

Windows 8.x however...

wtf i literally installed 8.1 today

someone will fork chromium for 7

maybe more Chinese forks with no source code available lol

WinDVD

maybe more Chinese forks with no source code available lol

Hopefully not

17:57

I think 7 will be easier to fork Chromium for than XP was because there's much less of a difference between 7 & 10 than XP and Vista/7/8/10

17:57

So I think someone will fork it who isnt a sketchy Chinese company lol

plus the whole waterfox will support 7 even after mozilla drops ff for 7 promise

win5270

So I think someone will fork it who isnt a sketchy Chinese company lol

or someone here does it themselves...

tho tbf idk if that may be the case

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

or someone here does it themselves...

they might

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

wtf i literally installed 8.1 today

i mean you can still use it

18:03

Firefox will keep supporting it for a while

18:03

and if someone forks Chromium for vanilla 7, it'll work on 8

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Well Vista and 7 will be alright as long as their extended kernels continue to be developed

18:04

win32 is adding Windows 10 functions to Vista

RTX 4090 on vista troll

Well Windows 7 drivers exist for that card I think

18:05

So yeah

18:05

That could happen

win5270

That could happen

they dont

Oh my bad

18:07

well, it could still happen if someone could mod the 3000 series drivers to work with 4000 but that's a stretch

wtf vista drivers??

18:08

oh yeah forgot they use that

18:08

the fact that 4090 hid incompatible os threw me off lmfao

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

980ti supports vista officially but not xp

18:14

though i think someone just modded 960 drivers to work

18:14

now Vista has 399.xx drivers which adds support for pascal

which is very nice

Just gotta be careful, sometimes when you install them, you might get stuck on the orb

18:18

idk why that happens to some people, never could get it to happen to me

win5270

Firefox will keep supporting it for a while

Yeah firefox promised to keep support for 7 and 8 for more

support

21:49

casually breaks stuff like titlebuttons (edited)

still better than chromium just stopping support entirely trol

(edited)

very nice

i have like 3 vista business keys

vista ext kernel gettin more browser support than 7? troll

tfw you just

00:30

REMAKE the branding so it can fit in 8.1's dimensions

oh, and logon too, just so it can be scaled up and all

yeet

delta_logon_ultimate.svg

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delta_logon_starter.svg

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delta_logon_professional.svg

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delta_logon_homep.svg

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That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

oh, and logon too, just so it can be scaled up and all

:whatisthis:

06:19

just do vista business lmfao

It's a svg. You can do it yourself trol

am i the one doing the project or using it?

08:00

lol

oofer_dww

am i the one doing the project or using it?

Yes you are trol

nope

12:43

im on win7 to begin with

12:43

tr

oofer_dww

just do vista business lmfao

Delta.

Business wasn't a thing until late Beta 2

it was still Professional back then (edited)

what is this, beta transformation?

19:24

looks heavily like a release to me

19:24

also @OFF

you'll see what soon

i cannot care less troll

oofer_dww

also @OFF

they want you to @ off when replying

better

it always has been called 'Business' (edited)

19:52

in the Normal branding (edited)

19:53

aside from https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996215367863119872/1051936704119984148/image.png 'cos only the textures change for Windows 8 branding options

time to commit dishery

Dominic

20:13

Do this in #windows-8

i mean, it started in here, and it is kinda Vista trivia that 'Windows Starter 2007' was a thing, but... yeah was gonna move it over later.

That Linux Dude Dominic Hayes

aside from https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/996215367863119872/1051936704119984148/image.png 'cos only the textures change for Windows 8 branding options

holy god what the fuck

ok anyway one more wip screenshot before going to #windows-8

windows 2007 8.1 version

you do realise, right...

20:19

that Windows Starter 2007...

20:19

is an official SKU... (edited)

20:19

that became Vista Starter when Professional->Business. (edited)

yes but that start orb has me loling

he meant the mod

1

Vruh 2

he meant the mod

i don't even

Windows Server®️ 2008 Datacenter without Hyper-V™️

yeah ik oddly specific sku

17:47

doubt the p4 can even do hyper-v anyway

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so went with oddly specific variant

Scamdisk

doubt the p4 can even do hyper-v anyway

unless it has vt-x no

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seemingly from the instructions list it doesnt

ofc

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even then, virtualization on a pentium 4 wouldn't be pleasant anyway

for some reason i'm still surprised this gpu from 2003 can even do aero at all

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Windows Server®️ 2008 Datacenter without Hyper-V™️

Wasn't Hyper-V a major selling point? (edited)

yes iirc (edited)

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but they still decided to offer variants without it

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en_windows_server_2008_datacenter_enterprise_standard_without_hyper-v_sp2_x64_dvd_342337.iso en_windows_server_2008_datacenter_enterprise_standard_without_hyper-v_sp2_x86_dvd_342334.iso

i like how you can just google a filename and get a gdrive link for it lol

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or some msdn mirror

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my new possession

and new victim of the extended kernel

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how's vista's ssd support?

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

was about to ask about vista and ssd optimization but bam the guide was in the pastebin link

my very own message...

WinDVD

this https://forum.eclectic4un.me/viewtopic.php?t=98&p=275

ouch that is seriously weak dude

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ouch that is seriously weak dude

it can be as slow as it wants it has a SEVENTEEN INCH SCREEN AND A VISTA STICKER

It will struggle with vista I am sure

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

it can be as slow as it wants it has a SEVENTEEN INCH SCREEN AND A VISTA STICKER

average vista user deluded beyond belief

serjG

It will struggle with vista I am sure

i have a 2009 emachines e627 with some like tf-20 that idles windows 7 at 100% cpu usage on a fresh install

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these amd mobile processors have NO guts

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i don't know how they made it to market

Mack Daddy of Heimlich County

i have a 2009 emachines e627 with some like tf-20 that idles windows 7 at 100% cpu usage on a fresh install

are you sure the cpu isnt being pegged by some update process or some other sissy windows service like dotnet optimization or svchost or sppsvc

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windows 7 tends to do that

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are you sure the cpu isnt being pegged by some update process or some other sissy windows service like dotnet optimization or svchost or sppsvc

dunno, happened on the og install, a fresh and then seasoned install, and then a fresh and totally cut down install

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with a ton of disabled services and crazy stripping i got it down to 70% idle i think

meanwhile im gonna run minecraft 1.16 on my old ass core 2 duo t5470 and x3100 and slap on the fabulously optimized modpack on top of that